I’m included too, but I’ve come this far, I can’t just stop now.
That said, there’s a lot to be gained by them having a regular on here provide them a direct weekly TLDR. This may already be happening, but it sounds like there’s pretty big lapses in communication.
While I prefer the original bare metal clip, having a painted black clip or one where the ring sticks out slightly from the light is a minor issue to me.
I think it’s silly when I see people posting they won’t buy the light because of it. But to each their own.
In all seriousness oweban, this is a good idea. I don’t think we can ‘expect’ it, but it would be nice if someone from the vendor/company would post every week or two with a brief update on what is happening. And ideally it would be the same person each time.
They should not be expected to answer question or even actively participate in discussions, only to post a brief update every couple of weeks.
But, since the team members of projects usually have to beg for info…. this is unlikely I guess. Unless possibly it is somehow part of the original agreement when a ‘collaboration’ is finalized. But even then it would be unenforceable.
I agree. To me it is utterly comical to read those “I won’t buy because……” posts.
Though “comical”, it is kinda sad too. Why do people feel the need to post that… just don’t buy.
But, I guess your right; “to each their own”.
Even if it’s someone from the forums (TK, tatasal, etc) that keeps up on it and gives the TLDR and relays feedback - the rep from Lumintop doesn’t need to actually read the thread nor post, just a bit of a once-a-week catch-up. I guess there’s lots of ways it could be done, but I guess we’ll just wait for the latest photos/thoughts, as I’m not going to be drawn into guessing what’s the most up-to-date.
Ah well, I can but dream.
sure he is exaggerating, but it’s really not silly, it goes hand in hand with this sentiment:
it is definitely not fit, in fact it is fat
I agree oweban, team member updates are fine. They do a great job.
But many of them are having to fight for updates, sometimes with very little or no result for their efforts. That has to be extremely frustrating for them, as well as the time they must waste for the effort. Then only to find something out by way of a FaceBook post someone quotes here on BLF. :person_facepalming:
That sux.
I was just thinking an update ever couple of weeks from “one” factory person would take some of the load from team members. And would probably ease the minds of many members too.
Of course any specific updates would still come from team members. But somehow they would be / should be given them in a timely manner. They should not have to fight & beg for answers or find things out from a third party. They should be kept informed.
All that I have written is probably just a pipe dream…. but in a perfect world, it would be nice. 
Six ways from Sunday!
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It’d be really interesting to know that, no? If only we had a working line of communication with Lumintop…
That’s basically why this project wasn’t completed a year ago, and why there have been so many surprises — both welcome and not. For projects like this, BLF needs to talk directly to manufacturers… and that’s not how this project was set up.
… and I get to read everything twice. Pbtbtbtbt. 
I don’t have a mental condition though. I don’t know what you’re talking about. But could someone please do something about the bats?
“…but once you get locked into a serious flashlight collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.”
The thing that really worried me was the gamut. There is nothing more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of a CRI binge… and I knew we’d get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.
I’m a newb, so my opinion may be off-base. With that preface, here it is anyway:
How long does R&D usually go into production of a EDC light?? I think there are enough who have expressed interest to go forward with production. I still observe opinions and speculation and considerations of development. I understand the betas of final design are in the works (I think?). Can we expect an order confirmation before, or at least near the second anniversary of the announcement of the product? Sure would be cool if it happened.
Patience is a virtue… That I do not possess.
Yes please, I’m in for one, thank you in advance.
When lumintop or any other manufacturer that makes these BLF lights decides on last minutes changes, I’m curious about their point of view:
Do they think we won’t notice because we are dumb, or
Do they assume we won’t care because we aren’t picky, or
Do they just decide to use parts that are cheaper and readily available, saving just cents in each components which at the end sums up to a pretty significant amount, knowing that 99% of the people will still happily send their $$$ anyways.
Because it’s not like they can’t make it right, it’s almost if they didn’t want to. “Hey boss, FW3A is ready for production and the specs are fully compliant!” -“Good, now go ahead and put a different clip to it”
Or… All of the above? 
Or, and this is giving them the huge benefit of the doubt, they think they are doing something really cool, that they are proud of, and think we will like, then are surprised when we don’t.
That is a very real & distinct possibility also cabfrank. 
We must be small potatoes.