FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

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Silent_Star wrote:
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I see a few people have ordered 7A. I’m on the fence about this one. It is a very warm tint.

For me thrower = cool white, flooder = warm white.

I get your point, but also think neutral white is good for everything. I do like warm tints, especially to make colors more vivid, I just wonder if 7A is TOO warm, hence being on the fence. Teacher’s death ray description made me laugh, but also makes me think I should just get a couple 3D’s instead of one of each. There will also be a warmer SST-20 down the road sometime.

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mbp wrote:
I’m a bit on the fence on what to do. I really want to get one in my hands as fast as possible, but I would really prefer the LH351D (top option) or SST-20 over the XP-L. It would be helpful to know if there’s an approximate timeframe for the SST-20 and whether or not the coupon will still work for that option.

Not a huge deal either way—if we don’t know any more when my number comes up I’ll just buy the XP-L. But then I guess I should ask to be added for a 2nd light for the next round?? Decisions, decisions!


As it was stated earlier, the SST-20 will be priced less because of the emitter. There will probably be a coupon for it too. I have no idea how much of a discount, though. However, if the XP-L HI runs out, you probably won’t have any trouble trading yours for someone else’s SST-20. Just something to consider.
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I get your point, but also think neutral white is good for everything. I do like warm tints, especially to make colors more vivid, I just wonder if 7A is TOO warm, hence being on the fence. Teacher’s death ray description made me laugh, but also makes me think I should just get a couple 3D’s instead of one of each. There will also be a warmer SST-20 down the road sometime.

Part of the struggle is that we do perceive light a little differently (I don’t know if it’s actual optical variations in eye composition, psychological, or just preference), so first hand experience is usually the best way to decide. I’m really curious about the combination of build quality, switch operation, and UI implementation. If it’s as good as everyone is expecting, then having two (one neutral, one warm) would solve the problem. I’m also curious about how difficult it will be to change out the emitter. There are different degrees of talent involved, depending upon how its implemented. Given the price of the light, emitter swap done by someone else would far exceed the light cost… which would be painful.
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i got the first PM and will order!

but please add me for 1 more to the next batch for higher CRI, diff emitter, etc. thanks!

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I’m waiting for the SST20

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I’m in for one of the SST-20 or higher cri options when available.

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Spiderlight wrote:
Will I get a tracking code after shipping?

That’s a great question for Neal. Smile

The answer might be complicated though, since shipping is a bit different for each country.

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kat wrote:
Who is this Neal person that everyone is talking about?

Neal runs NealsGadgets, which is the retailer for this project. His shop is where everyone is buying their FW3A lights.

Neal is also the person to ask about most FW3A-related questions from this point forward, since most of the questions will be about purchases and shipping and problems and returns and such. Customer support is a big part of his job as a retailer.

His contact info is in the notification message which is being sent to each person on the interest list. He’s also on BLF with the username of “Neal”.

After the group buy, I assume Lumintop will sell their own version too, with their bunny logo on the tail button.

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xevious wrote:
So does this mean that 1544 units were produced … ?

No, it just means there were 1544 unique names on the list when the messages started going out.

Each person only needs one message, so I removed duplicates from the request list in order to produce a shorter private message list.

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PM #962 received 16:22 EST

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teacher wrote:
to each their own. 7A looks like a Hot Death Ray…

True, that. I generally stay far away from any tints that warm. However, it looks really nice in candle mode.

Now that I think about it, maybe I should get one just for that purpose.

… or of course I could keep using my Q8 for that, because it has a 3D-printed diffuser cap which makes the tint about 3000K warmer. Smile

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Silent_Star wrote:
For me thrower = cool white, flooder = warm white.

That’s interesting. Usually people do the opposite.

Cool white throwers tend to make a bright blue beam in the air, and the beam obscures the target. This is caused by Rayleigh scattering. So a neutral or warm white thrower is usually more practical. But cool white works fine up close. And, as clemence has said, high-CRI cool white actually has a very full and useful color spectrum.

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Random Dan wrote:
So just to confirm, if I was on the list for one which I just ordered, but would also like to get a group buy light in high CRI, I don’t need to be added to the new list?

Correct.

There isn’t a second list for the SST-20 emitter type. The list doesn’t track that data at all.

I think what will happen is: As soon as Neal adds the SST-20 preorder option to his store, you should be able to order it with the code from your first message. But that is not confirmed yet. I don’t know how he will handle that.

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Thanks so much, lads! Got my order in just now – looking forward to the SST20 too!

For anyone trying to sort when they might get their PM, spot #1287 came in at 3:40PM EST on Saturday 27 APR.

Thanks again! Smile

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I got my PM and ordered three since they’re going to have the LEDs swapped anyway and I don’t want to wait any longer. I did get both CCTs so I can test the output and colour for others. Not very hopeful I will receive them any time soon with this volume of orders though.

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Please add me to the list for one more (2 total), so I can also get the sst-20 when available. Thanks!

 

 

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xevious wrote:
I’m also curious about how difficult it will be to change out the emitter.

As far as mods go, this one is pretty easy. It uses a standard triple MCPCB. So basically just unscrew the bezel, unsolder two wires, swap the board, connect two wires, and screw the bezel back on.

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would like sst 20 when available, thanks

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xevious wrote:
Thanks to folks for posting when they’ve ordered, as it gives us a sense of how far away we are from notification. Looks like I’ll be getting my PM somewhere between 1am ~ 2am. Smile
Yep, you will get it right about 01:15 CST 28 April 2019 to be exact…._ very early_ Sunday. Provided the script keeps running smoothly, as it appears it has been thusfar. Thumbs Up

1336 × 95 = 126,920 ÷ 3600 = 35.26 hours

PM Script began 14:00 CST 26 April 2019

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xevious wrote:
If it’s as good as everyone is expecting, then having two (one neutral, one warm) would solve the problem.

Comparing different CCT with the same CRI 70 won’t be as eductional for your eyes and brain than comparing same CCT with different CRI (70 vs 90).
People who are searching for vivid colors are looking for high CRI (Ra = 90 with R9 = at least 60 (80 and more is better)).
When your eyes and brain can make the difference even a 3000°K CRI 70 LED make all colors, even red shades, look dull and dreary compared to a 4000°K CRI 95.
If you want vivid colors and don’t have an SST-20 4000°K CRI 95 flashlight yet, you should consider this option long before any XP-L HI CRI 70 flashlight whatever its CCT.
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ToyKeeper wrote:
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So does this mean that 1544 units were produced … ?

No, it just means there were 1544 unique names on the list when the messages started going out.

Each person only needs one message, so I removed duplicates from the request list in order to produce a shorter private message list.


Thanks, TK. My apologies for the stupid question — later I realized the answer was so obvious, because some people requested more than one. Thanks again for the list consolidation effort. Smile
ToyKeeper wrote:
xevious wrote:
I’m also curious about how difficult it will be to change out the emitter.

As far as mods go, this one is pretty easy. It uses a standard triple MCPCB. So basically just unscrew the bezel, unsolder two wires, swap the board, connect two wires, and screw the bezel back on.


Excellent! Thumbs Up Just another sign of how this flashlight design was well thought out.
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Please add me to the list for 2 more (4 total… I’m #‘s 2073 & 2074 on the request list). Thank you very much!!!

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Just got the email so I’m about to place my order, questions:

1) When (rough time frame) will the SST-20 version be available?
2) Will there or is there an interested list for the SST-320 version?

Thanks as always for everything!!!

EDIT: Nevermind….read Toykeeper’s earlier post on this topic….this thread is moving way too fast for me on a Saturday! Smile

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I ordered and paid for my 4 lights on the list, did I mess up?
I see they’ll probably only go out 8th May Cool

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teacher wrote:
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Hm, assuming ….
  • Script start time of ~12:00 CST 2019/04/26
  • 95 second per-row execution time
  • The “names” list in post #4 is the execution order
  • My hasty Exel-Fu isn’t terribly off

looks like at #1061 I should expect notification around 16:00 CST 2019/04/27.

You know the old saying about assuming…. Wink
  • Start time 14:00 CST 26 April 2019
  • Use your number on This PM List

And then someone PM’s me triggering an email I didn’t have the opportunity to fully read until now and I assumed that was the code and we were both wrong.

+2 hours on start time and + 25 on position. So it’s looking more like 4/27/2019 18:39. [shrug]. The PM with the code shows up when it shows up then the light ships when it ships.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
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to each their own. 7A looks like a Hot Death Ray…

True, that. I generally stay far away from any tints that warm. However, it looks really nice in candle mode.

Now that I think about it, maybe I should get one just for that purpose.

… or of course I could keep using my Q8 for that, because it has a 3D-printed diffuser cap which makes the tint about 3000K warmer. Smile

For “candle mode” I completely agree…. 7A would indeed be perfect for that. Beer

Do I want to designate one FW3A soley to candle duty?? Because that is all I would use a 7A for.

Hmmm… not sure, but maybe I would.. Decisions, decisions….. Wink

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I don’t want to bug Neal with a simple question, I think he is already getting flooded with questions.

So I will ask here, those who ordered and paid on Neals store do they get “Fulfillment Status: unfulfilled” message?

Thanks in advance.

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In for one more (2 total, xpl and high-cri once released)

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idleprocess wrote:
So it’s looking more like 4/27/2019 18:39.
And that would be just about correct. Wink

1086 × 95 = 103,170 ÷ 3600 = 28.69 hours

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hank wrote:
I’m waiting for the SST20

As am I, Bunny or not!

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