maukka, any chance you have some comparison beamshots?
Nothing on the LH351D version, but here’s 219B sw40 vs. XP-L HI 3D on a white wall and a floor with reddish tint. Should be obvious which is which.
I appreciate it. I’m curious about the dogfarts with the 10507. Are you pleased with it? Beam profile-wise?
Maukka, did you have an XP-L HI 7A emitter in your hands? I am interested in measurements and how it falls in FW3A.
No, I don’t have the 7A.
Stock or de-domed/sliced?
Dome on.
It’s pretty much a wash between dedoming and filtering when it comes to output. If you want a tighter spot, then dedome away, but for me, I kinda like the wide even spot of the stock LH351D and 10507. Great for closeup work while still retaining some throw.
That matches my experience too. Perhaps I should finally get a sheet of minus-green material and stop being so picky about which emitters are used. Almost everything is going to look green, so I should put some rose-tinted glass over it to make things look better.
Lee Minus Green filters are great stuff!
I have a #279 filter in my modded FW3A right now. It’s not a Zircon filter so probably won’t last super-long in high-brightness LED applications. But on the other hand it came in a roll big enough for a hundred small flashlights.
It does reduce output 14% and makes the tint warmer though. Currently using it with 2x 5D and 1x 3D emitter.
Banggood.com have just sent me 2 XPL HI 5000K for review, I’m not sure why they sent me 2 but they are very very different
One has a frosted optic and Nichia Like tint the other has a clear optic and yellowish typical XPL 5000k tint.
The frosted one gets anywhere from 2800 to 3700 at turn on and the clear optic one gets 2600 every time.
The Frosted one is also temperamental in muggle mode, often doubling it’s power to 600ish lumens.
Banggood.com have just sent me 2 XPL HI 5000K for review, I’m not sure why they sent me 2 but they are very very different
One has a frosted optic and Nichia Like tint the other has a clear optic and yellowish typical XPL 5000k tint.
The frosted one gets anywhere from 2800 to 3700 at turn on and the clear optic one gets 2600 every time.The Frosted one is also temperamental in muggle mode, often doubling it’s power to 600ish lumens.
How do the optics look like?
Below is a sample of the “plastic optic”, Carclo 10511, and Carclo 10507 optic on the FW3A.
The frosted one looks like the middle light but my clear optic is different from the clear one in the pic, mine doesn’t have the 3 spokes in the middle.
It’s likely your clear one has the copied optics made in China. It’s supposed to have lower lumens and yours exhibits that behavior. Replace it with a factory Carclo 10507 and you should see a pretty nice lumens increase.
It’s likely your clear one has the copied optics made in China. It’s supposed to have lower lumens and yours exhibits that behavior. Replace it with a factory Carclo 10507 and you should see a pretty nice lumens increase.
Cheers. Lumintop contacted me asking why banggood was all over the review, I forgot they’d also sent me one, oops.
I had no idea there were clone 10507s out there. Thanks Dale, i will check mine.
I was not in the group buy but have recently been looking at the Titanium variant. I noticed an alert on Neal’s pages about lower numbers out of a cloned, made in China, optic. I still haven’t bought one but was looking at the sapphire lens to go with the Ti/Cu FW3A and as I already have clear spot optics that part wasn’t a concern for me… a little surprising but not really a big deal as they are so easily changed out.
The polished copper has an appeal to me as well … always something, isn’t it?
anyone got a link to the runtimes in steped mode?
Anyone got a link to the runtimes in stepped mode?
It will vary based on the battery and leds. I think this is all we have.
d_t_a:Is there some rough computation guide for lumens to runtime (let’s assume the battery is a 3000mAh 18650 like an LG HG2 or INR18650-30Q)?
I’ve been meaning to make a table for that… and there’s no time like the present.
This is only an estimate, generated by plugging the firmware’s PWM values into a script with some guesses about the power draw and lumen output… but it should give people a rough idea what to expect.
All 150 ramp levels with a 3000 mAh cell:
1: 0.2 lm, 2 mA, 74 days 2: 0.2 lm, 2 mA, 74 days 3: 0.8 lm, 3 mA, 41 days 4: 0.8 lm, 3 mA, 41 days 5: 1.5 lm, 4 mA, 28 days 6: 1.5 lm, 4 mA, 28 days 7: 2.1 lm, 7 mA, 17 days 8: 2.1 lm, 7 mA, 17 days 9: 2.7 lm, 9 mA, 14 days 10: 3.3 lm, 10 mA, 12 days 11: 4.0 lm, 11 mA, 11 days 12: 4.6 lm, 13 mA, 10 days 13: 5.2 lm, 14 mA, 9 days 14: 5.9 lm, 16 mA, 8 days 15: 7.1 lm, 18 mA, 7 days 16: 7.7 lm, 22 mA, 6 days 17: 8.4 lm, 24 mA, 5 days 18: 9.0 lm, 25 mA, 5 days 19: 10.3 lm, 28 mA, 5 days 20: 11.5 lm, 30 mA, 4 days 21: 12.2 lm, 32 mA, 94 hours 22: 13.4 lm, 35 mA, 87 hours 23: 14.7 lm, 37 mA, 80 hours 24: 15.9 lm, 40 mA, 75 hours 25: 17.8 lm, 44 mA, 68 hours 26: 19.1 lm, 47 mA, 64 hours 27: 21.0 lm, 51 mA, 59 hours 28: 22.2 lm, 54 mA, 56 hours 29: 24.1 lm, 58 mA, 52 hours 30: 26.0 lm, 62 mA, 48 hours 31: 27.9 lm, 66 mA, 45 hours 32: 29.8 lm, 70 mA, 43 hours 33: 31.7 lm, 74 mA, 40 hours 34: 34.2 lm, 80 mA, 38 hours 35: 36.7 lm, 85 mA, 35 hours 36: 38.6 lm, 90 mA, 33 hours 37: 41.1 lm, 95 mA, 32 hours 38: 43.6 lm, 101 mA, 30 hours 39: 46.8 lm, 107 mA, 28 hours 40: 49.3 lm, 113 mA, 27 hours 41: 52.4 lm, 120 mA, 25 hours 42: 55.6 lm, 127 mA, 24 hours 43: 58.1 lm, 132 mA, 23 hours 44: 61.9 lm, 140 mA, 21 hours 45: 65.0 lm, 147 mA, 20 hours 46: 68.8 lm, 156 mA, 19 hours 47: 71.9 lm, 162 mA, 18 hours 48: 75.7 lm, 171 mA, 18 hours 49: 79.5 lm, 179 mA, 17 hours 50: 83.9 lm, 189 mA, 16 hours 51: 87.6 lm, 197 mA, 15 hours 52: 92.1 lm, 206 mA, 15 hours 53: 96.5 lm, 216 mA, 14 hours 54: 100.9 lm, 226 mA, 13 hours 55: 105.3 lm, 235 mA, 13 hours 56: 110.3 lm, 246 mA, 12 hours 57: 115.3 lm, 257 mA, 12 hours 58: 120.4 lm, 268 mA, 11 hours 59: 125.4 lm, 279 mA, 11 hours 60: 131.1 lm, 292 mA, 10 hours 61: 136.1 lm, 303 mA, 10 hours 62: 141.8 lm, 315 mA, 10 hours 63: 148.0 lm, 329 mA, 9 hours 64: 153.7 lm, 341 mA, 9 hours 65: 160.0 lm, 355 mA, 8 hours 66: 164.7 lm, 370 mA, 8 hours 67: 172.1 lm, 389 mA, 8 hours 68: 179.5 lm, 408 mA, 7 hours 69: 186.9 lm, 427 mA, 7 hours 70: 194.3 lm, 447 mA, 7 hours 71: 205.4 lm, 476 mA, 6 hours 72: 212.8 lm, 495 mA, 6 hours 73: 220.1 lm, 514 mA, 6 hours 74: 227.5 lm, 533 mA, 6 hours 75: 238.6 lm, 562 mA, 5 hours 76: 246.0 lm, 581 mA, 5 hours 77: 253.4 lm, 596 mA, 5 hours 78: 264.5 lm, 625 mA, 5 hours 79: 271.9 lm, 644 mA, 5 hours 80: 283.0 lm, 673 mA, 4 hours 81: 294.1 lm, 702 mA, 4 hours 82: 301.5 lm, 721 mA, 4 hours 83: 312.6 lm, 750 mA, 4 hours 84: 323.7 lm, 779 mA, 231 minutes 85: 334.8 lm, 807 mA, 223 minutes 86: 345.8 lm, 836 mA, 215 minutes 87: 356.9 lm, 865 mA, 208 minutes 88: 368.0 lm, 894 mA, 201 minutes 89: 379.1 lm, 923 mA, 195 minutes 90: 393.9 lm, 961 mA, 187 minutes 91: 405.0 lm, 990 mA, 182 minutes 92: 416.1 lm, 1019 mA, 177 minutes 93: 430.9 lm, 1058 mA, 170 minutes 94: 442.0 lm, 1087 mA, 166 minutes 95: 456.7 lm, 1125 mA, 160 minutes 96: 471.5 lm, 1164 mA, 155 minutes 97: 482.6 lm, 1192 mA, 151 minutes 98: 497.4 lm, 1231 mA, 146 minutes 99: 512.2 lm, 1269 mA, 142 minutes 100: 527.0 lm, 1308 mA, 138 minutes 101: 541.8 lm, 1346 mA, 134 minutes 102: 556.6 lm, 1385 mA, 130 minutes 103: 571.4 lm, 1423 mA, 126 minutes 104: 586.1 lm, 1462 mA, 123 minutes 105: 604.6 lm, 1510 mA, 119 minutes 106: 619.4 lm, 1549 mA, 116 minutes 107: 637.9 lm, 1597 mA, 113 minutes 108: 652.7 lm, 1635 mA, 110 minutes 109: 671.2 lm, 1683 mA, 107 minutes 110: 686.0 lm, 1722 mA, 105 minutes 111: 704.4 lm, 1770 mA, 102 minutes 112: 722.9 lm, 1818 mA, 99 minutes 113: 741.4 lm, 1866 mA, 96 minutes 114: 759.9 lm, 1914 mA, 94 minutes 115: 778.4 lm, 1963 mA, 92 minutes 116: 796.9 lm, 2011 mA, 90 minutes 117: 819.0 lm, 2068 mA, 87 minutes 118: 837.5 lm, 2117 mA, 85 minutes 119: 856.0 lm, 2165 mA, 83 minutes 120: 878.2 lm, 2222 mA, 81 minutes 121: 900.4 lm, 2280 mA, 79 minutes 122: 918.9 lm, 2328 mA, 77 minutes 123: 941.0 lm, 2386 mA, 75 minutes 124: 963.2 lm, 2444 mA, 74 minutes 125: 985.4 lm, 2502 mA, 72 minutes 126: 1007.6 lm, 2559 mA, 70 minutes 127: 1029.8 lm, 2617 mA, 69 minutes 128: 1055.6 lm, 2684 mA, 67 minutes 129: 1077.8 lm, 2742 mA, 66 minutes 130: 1100.0 lm, 2800 mA, 64 minutes 131: 1157.9 lm, 3053 mA, 59 minutes 132: 1239.9 lm, 3451 mA, 52 minutes 133: 1329.4 lm, 3886 mA, 46 minutes 134: 1418.9 lm, 4320 mA, 42 minutes 135: 1508.4 lm, 4755 mA, 38 minutes 136: 1597.9 lm, 5190 mA, 35 minutes 137: 1687.4 lm, 5625 mA, 32 minutes 138: 1776.9 lm, 6059 mA, 30 minutes 139: 1873.9 lm, 6530 mA, 28 minutes 140: 1970.8 lm, 7001 mA, 26 minutes 141: 2067.8 lm, 7472 mA, 24 minutes 142: 2164.7 lm, 7943 mA, 23 minutes 143: 2269.1 lm, 8450 mA, 21 minutes 144: 2366.1 lm, 8921 mA, 20 minutes 145: 2470.5 lm, 9428 mA, 19 minutes 146: 2574.9 lm, 9935 mA, 18 minutes 147: 2679.3 lm, 10442 mA, 17 minutes 148: 2783.7 lm, 10949 mA, 16 minutes 149: 2888.1 lm, 11457 mA, 16 minutes 150: 3000.0 lm, 12000 mA, 15 minutes
What is the rechargeable battery used in this test or any recommended rechargeable baterries…Thank You
What is the rechargeable battery used in this test or any recommended rechargeable baterries…Thank You
Most people have been using the Samsung 30Q. I’ve been using 18650s recovered from an old laptop battery, they are only 1800mAh but I’ve got 8 of them lol. I’ll get some better ones when my FW3T comes in.