Are you already a user of KiCAD? I’d like to learn it, but the learning curve is steep for me. There is an Eagle tutorial around here from years ago, which helped a lot of us get started in PCB design. If you know how to use KiCAD, it would be helpful to at least some of us if you could help out with a quick-start tutorial of sorts. :innocent:
Never used kicad, I’ve used eagle a bit in the past. This is mainly a good excuse and project for me to get back into embedded electronics. I’ve been meaning to learn kicad for a while (not a huge fan of eagle since auto CAD bought them). I’ll definitely try to document my descent into the abyss!
Yeah, since AutoCAD bought Eagle, it has gone to junk. That’s why I’d like to learn KiCAD now. But it just isn’t very intuitive to me. 
I still use diptrace for PCB design and find it does everything I need.
Hmm, I might have to check out diptrace. Heard of it, never tried it. I’ve been using eagle.
I tried eagle at first but did not like it and found diptrace to be better personally.
Can I buy a ready assembled key with pogo pins attached?
Can someone tell me what this part is called:
Alternatively if there is another inexpensive part that allows me to go from the key to the USB ASP let me know. I have small gauge wires and extra jumper wires but nothing else.
2.54mm(0.1inch) pitch 4x2 pin header
Anyone?
Looked everywhere for a pre assembled key.
@contractor
You could also use any of the break away or loose 2.54mm header pins soldered to the key and wire straight to it like I did with the loneoceans key.
Pololu - 0.100" (2.54 mm) Breakaway Male Header: 1×40-Pin, Straight, Black They can be found in alot of different places online.
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Thanks I bet I could snip the ones I got shorter if the pads line up right. I got extras. If not I guess the wires may help with the flexing.
On a related note, DigiKey has outdone themselves and they are now competing with Arrow packaging (RIP Free Shipping).
FW3A for scale.
Why such a big box you ask? To protect the 4 feet of heatshrink tube of course. Other items included a few LEDs, resistors, and those jumpers. :person_facepalming:
Yea Mouser has been doing that too for years… I think they are concerned you will call it ‘damaged’ if it arrives kinked.
The “fix” is to include a note on the order that says “Please fold the heat-shrink to reduce shipping costs.” That has been working for me.
I mean what do they do with their extension cords and garden hoses and rope…
Couldn’t they role it? Shouldn’t make any creases if they just made a little role of it. That’s just insane.
I’m interested in this HQ Progkey, but when I inquired in the website, I didn’t get a response.
I’m wondering if they ship to my country, and how much might be the shipping cost.
Check these out. I actually had this exact idea for edge mounting the connector a month ago and even ordered parts to build one. Now a more intense Google search shows the exact idea already exists.
Alternative image: 
https://www.tindie.com/products/pnoxi/avr-isp-pogo-pin-adapter-2x5-idc2x3-pogo-127mm/
Thank you ordered a couple.
Oh, ok. What pitch did you order?
My link was to the 2.54mm pitch version just for a visual.
I updated my link to the 1.27mm pitch version in-case anyone else orders from it.