FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

I don’t know how much bargaining power Neal has with Lumintop, but maybe he can convince them to stop screwing up a good design with their usual “chabuduo” crap.

I will probably get a second light in some time and I would definitely like to have it with Carclo and glass too!!!
I know it can be changed after, but I’d rather have it as the original one!

After seeing TK’s comment above, I think I can stand that half a gram in my pocket, specially if it “only” blends colour a little bit better!

So…I ain’t sure if this was a good decision… :neutral_face:

Kaidomain has 20mm x 1mm AR coated lenses. Can they at least confirm what we are getting so that we can order the necessary parts to get the light back to “standard” form??

The FW3A lens is larger than that. 23mm by 1.5mm.

djozz, have you been happy with the sapphire lens in your FW3A? Any issues with it being too fragile or reduced transmittance?

Closest to that size is a 22.7mm x 2mm & 22mm x 1.5mm. Could fit with the right o-ring combination.

I have no experience with these sites, but here are some possible options I found:

Here are a couple aliexpress listings:
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Plus two watch repair sites:
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Yeah, this is a bad move on Lumintop’s part. They’ve gone and changed something without consulting the BLF/TLF team and made it worse. They probably shouldn’t be doing things like that after working so closely with everyone to manufacture this device as close to enthusiast spec as possible. They haven’t even rolled all of the versions out yet and we’re already seeing changes like this.

Wonder if there’ll be a “cancel preorder” option before the 24th (shipping). I really want the FA3, but I really don’t want different optics picked for arbitrary reasons.

I wouldn’t go that far myself, but I do totally understand if you’re upset about getting the ol’ switcharoo. Personally I’ll be happy as long as I can still get some glass and a Carclo for it included in the package.

I am sure they might be able to save a dollar or more with the new part and also reduce complexity. From an OEM point of view, this is a smart move.

Now, back to us consumers - can we leave a comment when ordering and get the “old” option back, somehow? Because this lens size seems difficult to purchase…

Agreed. I’d even prefer to pay a couple dollars more to retain the original parts.

Too late to cancel mine. I received my shipping notice yesterday. Hope it comes with what I was expecting.

Actually, I was gonna buy another FW3A but now… :person_facepalming:
Lumintop has obviously forgotten that this flashlight concept consists of thouroughly selected (standard) parts to fulfill most of TLF/BLF enthusiasts prerequisites.

Shame, I was looking forward to getting another FW3A with 7A emitters. Guess now I’ll have to cancel that plan.

Now im on the fence of picking up a pair with sst20’s. Assuming it will come with the new optic.

I just ordered a sst-20 yesterday and then I saw the update,
I feel lied to,
Does anyone know if we can get the lenses from whoever lumintop used? I really liked having the ar glass lens to protect the optic.

How do you even cancel? I am going to cancel and add in the "extras" that should have been with the light now. Never had sapphire glass but I would rather be safe than sorry.

You probably have to PM Neal or at the bottom of the email confirming your order you can reply with questions and such. I did that once with the email and Neal answered. You can try that. I saw nothing on the website.

if you are in the US, LED supply seems like the best place to get real Carclo optics, they have all of them and free US shipping.