FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

I wonder if Neal can also offer a standard AR tempered glass in addition to the sapphire AR one? They exist, as they’re on the original… unless they were custom cut.

Closest I could find on that site is 22.61mm x 1.90mm. There’s also a 22.61mm x 0.95mm, which I guess could be useful for adding a GITD o-ring. There’s also a Borofloat Lens option too… which is similar to Pyrex with better clarity, but has a 5% transmittance loss over UCL.

I wasn't so sure this thread would someday hit 15,000 posts...

But with self-inflicted controversies, anything is possible!

You're "only" 11971. I doubt it will reach that number. Did you mean 10k?

No, with controversies like this, I believe 15k posts will be inevitable.

Agreed…. only 3026 to go also.

“Lens Gate” will be good for many, many extra posts. :smiley: . :+1:

As will ’Color Gate’, ’Material Gate’, and any other pending ’Gate’ that may arise. :wink:

And if we continue to clutter it ;)

But looks like the coupon is gone, maybe lumintop just wanted to make the agreed amount of the flashlights for the price? I hope that I can get a rosy 219c instead of the SST20. Seems like they at least choose good bins.

I look forward to Gate Gate when they switch to a knockoff FET

Yeah, all this is potentially bad enough…… but that will be the ‘icing on the cake’… :person_facepalming:

Will that be before or after ditching 18650 support in favor of this tech…
https://www.hydralight.com/

…leading to Watergate. :smiling_imp:

I don’t think we count as much as we’d like.
This item is pimped everywhere.

:smiley: … Good one, I’ve never seen that before… :wink:

I think your probably right…… :slight_smile: . :+1:

lumintop just made my decision between a FW3A and D4 much easier. FW3A is being downgraded, D4 is being upgraded.

both worthy of possessing…

Nah.

Only one is worthy.

One is making upgrades.
The other is downgrades.

IMO, they should’ve just kept the glass, and changed the optic, while telling us about the change.

There’s a much bigger difference between a worse design vs a change of part that doesn’t change much.

I believe Lumintop had to do a lot of design engineering and make their own blueprints. I doubt they copied Fritz’s measurements and tolerances precisely. They probably used his light as inspiration, but basically designed it all new (body/machining wise).

What licensing? Between Fritz and Lumintop? I don’t believe there was any mention of such a thing. If there was, I missed it.

I don’t think you are realizing just how much effort and money Lumintop also put into this project. It’s not fair to say they were “gifted” the design and they only had to “make” it. It’s like I design a car and hand it to Ford and say “Make this”. It’s not that simple, it’s very complicated. Ford has to figure out all the nitty gritty details like fit, finish, tolerances, prototyping, testing, etc…

I think the only thing Lumintop did not have to work on was Anduril, because ToyKeeper worked on it for them.

So it was truly a group effort. Not many manufacturers will even work with forums since we are such a pain in their butt with so many demands, etc… :smiley:

Still, I can’t defend this last minute optic design change. They should say the problem they are having, for example maybe their supply of Carclo lenses is getting low and Carclo can not keep up demand. So an example to remedy this is to have a different company make a custom lens. They should ask us if this is acceptable before just doing it. Maybe it is only about lowering production costs, I don’t really know. The way they did it with no warning (kinda) and no explanation of why is surely going to upset many people and lose sales.

:+1:

I’m not saying Lumintop didn’t invest money and effort. I’m just saying a lot was done at no cost to them. Designing something like this in house would have been difficult for them, or maybe they never would have thought of it at all.

D4 v2 is official.

1. Larger MCPCB with dedicated screws holes: All 4 optic legs are intact in the D4 v2.
2. 7 auxiliary LED colors options which is selectable through config UI, as well as the voltage indication function.
3. Knurling on the tube, magnet option in the tailcap, lanyard hole added.
4. Anduril UI
5. Couple of other small improvements

Availability: soon

Perfect timing.