FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

Just correcting misinformation (or incorrect assumptions) when I see it. :wink:

Can't believe you did it . I knew it was coming :P

They deserve credit for capitalizing the letter L too

Huh.

Just noticed the price is higher than 30$US for the SST-20 version.

So, maybe they’ll use the Carclo+lens setup in the pre-ordered SST-20 version since the price difference is for the lens price and Carclo TIR?

Anyway, if that’s not the case, I’m not buying the FW3A anymore.

They should’ve just taken the 20% import taxes on the LH351Ds, made it the same price as the XP-L HI version, and be done with it.

LH351Ds with the floodier non-AR Glass optics would be extra floody. Practically a different light from the SST-20 + 10511 + AR Glass version.

I’ve been hearing that as well. Apparently due to the thin and flat surface of the sapphire crystal, it is more shatter prone than tempered glass. Are you familiar at all with Borofloat lenses

I would prefer those, but they aren’t the right size.

I believe that shatter-sensitivity of sapphire lenses is a non-issue.

I was ready to buy the copper and titanium versions too but I will keep my wallet closed after this nasty cost cutting crappola. shame Lumintop shame…

I agree my watches with sapphire have a far more exposed glass and get hit almost every day. Never had a problem, in fact really glad they don’t scratch.

Are those domed or flat sapphire watch crystals?

I have both. I believe the thinnest is 2.9 mm flat, but that’s with 32mm diameter.

mine is flat:

I have a couple watches with sapphire as well with no problems.

I believe the only negative thing about the sapphire lens is the lost output, not it’s durability.

I got this answer from Victor when complaining about optics change

Good, but who is “Victor”??

Can we assume “pocket color” means ‘pocket clip’?

I am pretty sure that Victor is one of the representatives of Lumintop.
And probably pocket = pocket clip :smiley:

Hello,all the FW3A fans,I am Neal.
about the FW3A optics change issues, I make this announcement.
can talk about this issues in this thread: FW3A optics issues Announcement Carclo optics Arrive

1.Reason for Lumintop to change the optics

  • first,because it is hard to order the carclo optics,usually need to wait 3-4 weeks,the first batch they wait 6 weeks.
    that is why the delay of the FW3A group buy start.
  • second,the carclo optics actually made in china dongguan,lumintop find another optics company in dongguan,
    that company is familiar with carclo, and said can make the same optics.after test the prototype,the performance almost same.
    but they make a fault to make extra optics and cancel the lens,this is the reason why the candelas are reduced.
  • third,cost,carclo will be much more expensive than the new optics,they want to reduce the cost so that can sell it cheaper in the future.

2.resolution of the optics issues
Lumintop already ordered the 10511 optics today,carclo replied need about 3 weeks.

  • a. Include glass lens with new optic, to allow easy modding.
    accept the new optics and these can ship in 48 hours
    and change the optics yourself,the FW3A will add a original lens in the package.
  • b. wait for new 10511 arrived,about 4 weeks ready to ship
  • c. cancel the order

pls send email or PM to me about your choice.
Email:nealgadgetsfw3a@hotmail.com
Mail include your order number and your choice.

other description:
1.FW3C also no 10511 optics,will wait for 10511 optics,so the shipping will be delay.

2.color FW3A,Lumintop will produce purple,blue and green. purple version with have TK’s logo.
they just make some prototype,like the following picture. I will talk with TK if it is ok.

3.for future optics.
the optics company are start to make another prototype to make it same as carclo 10511 optics.
if the result is good,will use that optics in the future.before it in production,will send them to TK,Kay and other reviews to compare.

Thank you Neal for the detailed reply with options also!! :+1: . :slight_smile: . :beer:

Thanks also to Lumintop for quickly addressing the issue.

These options are fair & reasonable as far as I am concerned. :slight_smile: . :+1:

As long as the AR coated glass lens is still included I am happy.
As long as the optic is a Carclo or a pretty exact Carclo copy… I am good.
As long as the current SST-20 version with the ‘combo optic’ also includes an AR coated glass lens in the box so I can remove the “combo optic” & replace it with my own Carclo & the included glass lens…. I am just fine with that.

Soooo… it looks like I am good to go…… :smiley: . :+1:

Note: "Combo optic" = optic & lens combination... NO glass

Thank you Neal! I can work with these options