WTB: Jetbeam RRT01 – Any place to buy it?! + [RRT01 2019 discussion]

Yes, it is more obvious from a picture taken with an angle and it confirm what I noticed from another picture. :wink:

Funny thing, Honda (or their dealers?) sometimes used red loctite on the screws for their key fobs. Customers would have to take them to Honda to be drilled out, or risk breaking a key fob that cost $70-150 to replace. All over a tiny lithium coin cell that cost at most $4 retail.

I tried with one strap wrench and my hand, but the rrt-01 resisted. I'll grab one of my old belts (don't mind ruining it with pliers marks) and try again some time.

@scallywag
I used painters tape wrapped about 20 times with vise grips on each piece to remove all mine but one. So far the original RRT01’s haven’t been that bad, shouldn’t take but a few more pounds of torque than what you can turn just using a hand grip. I did have one that I taped up and turned off by hand without the vise grips. The tape gave me enough grip to twist it loose. I guess it all depends on how much glue they use on each light. The glue on these I have seen has been some kind of clear milky looking glue.
If you can get a little better grip it should break loose.
I recently opened a TCR1 and the bezel just wouldn’t budge. I had to use the V11R aluminum clamps (same size head) to get it break loose. The two piece head came apart just by hand but the bezel had been over glued, just my luck.

My second order of the KD reflectors I found to work, came in today. I replaced the factory one in a 219b sw45k emitter swapped TCR1 today, turned out great vs the factory one.
Since these KD reflectors have a very lite orange peel, I thought I might try the Old-Lumens splatter effect and see if that smooths the whole beam out even further.

Just to verify, we are talking about the 2019 RRT-01, right? If so, does the new reflector deminish the throw of the original? Is it a choice between having rings and throw or having none?

Can you please provide the link for the reflector?

Also, “Old-Lumens splatter effect? Newbie here!

I received the reflector today. Don’t remember which of the two I ordered.

Good news, no rings!

Lesser news, my bezel doesn’t screw down all the way anymore. I have a gap of 1mm. I already use the thinner lens.

Gonna keep it for now as the beam improved big time, but not so sure it is waterproof now.

I am using it with a 3000k sst-20 btw.

No they do not fit the 2019 version

@Geuzzz
Are you using a thin led protector like these. http://kaidomain.com/S024679-15_6mm-L-x-9_5mm-W-x-0_9mm-T-White-Plastic-Insulation-Gaskets-for-Cree-XP-L-5-pcs?search=led%20gasket
Mine all screwed down down past the o-ring. The mcpcb thickness would also make a difference. I replace the factory one (which is thicker) with a 16mm filed down to fit copper mcpcb. http://kaidomain.com/Flashlight-DIY-and-Tools/led-pcbs-or-mcpcbs/S025781-KDLIGHT-XP-16-DTP-Copper-MCPCB-for-Cree-XP-Series

Yes I used that lens. Probably just the thickness of the mcpcb as I am using the original. Guess I have to find some motivation to sand it thinner one day. Thanks for the help.

Nope older original model RRT01 and TCR1 alike.
Old-Lumens called it stipple. Video - How I Stipple a Reflector
I have used it several times with great results.

I put a 20mm “convoy” tir lens in my 2019 rrt-01. Very easy drop-in only a fat oring is needed under the bezel ring to compensate a smal height difference.

Did you use the glass lens or no?

Yes, with glass lens.

lovely :wink:

those pebble tir make for nice evenly lit photos

on left is a pebble tir in a Tool (thanks to contactcr), middle is Tool w stock reflector, right is a pebble tir from clemence

you can see in the middle photo, that a hotspot creates a poor image due to some parts being brighter than others, and this alters the colors

Original RRT-01 driver, reflector, and pocket clip supplies available.

I learned thanks to moderator007 that the driver in the 2019 RRT-01 also fits the Original RRT-01, and the TCR-1. He also found 2 reflectors that are drop in replacements for the Original RRT-01 and NiteEye10, to improve the beam.

Image courtesy of moderator007

1. Eye10 driver has strobe
2. The 2019 RRT-01 uses the Eye10 driver.
3. Eye10 driver can be purchased individually from info (at) jetbeamlight.com
4. Eye10 driver fits in the TCR-1 and Original RRT-01
5. Upgraded eflectors to fit Original RRT-01, and the Eye10 and TCR-1, are available from Kaidomain, more info here: WTB: Jetbeam RRT01 – Any place to buy it?! + [RRT01 2019 discussion] - #487 by moderator007
6. Short pocket clips are available from jetbeam also, thanks to toddcshoe for the info. The short clips fit both the Original and 2019 RRT-01, as well as the TCR-1 and NiteEye Eye10.

Comparing reflector options for an Original RRT-01 w sw45 led mod.
Thanks to moderator007 for discovering the kaidomain reflectors:

kaidomain 23424:
best pick imo, the hotspot is nice and even, and no dark ring in the spill

kaidomain 21514:
very tight beam, slight shadow ring in the spill, the center has a small extra hot area that I dislike (it looks like a hole in the middle of the hotspot):

stock Original RRT-01 reflector:
not recommended, has a dark ring in the spill, plus other rings around the corona, and at close range there is a dark cross in the middle of the hotspot

The kaidomain reflectors are taller than the stock one. The kaidomain reflectors have a flange to prevent the reflector from pressing on the mcpcb, and prevent the use of a centering ring:

All of mine are using a thinner mcpcb than factory with a plastic centering ring and tighten down on the centering ring mcpcb fine and have no fitment problem at all.
Maybe the thinner mcpcb is the key to these working correctly.
I preferred the KD 23424 also, they look identical but the beam seems better with the 23424. Good to hear they look good with a sw45k.

both KD reflectors produce better beams than the setup w the stock reflector
but the KD reflectors dont let the bezel close down as far, the O ring is exposed, without using any centering ring:

if I add a thin round centering ring then the gap at the O ring gets bigger

when my RRT-01 was modded to sw45, I dont know what mcpcb thickness was used
The beam has at least 3 obvious rings in the spill. Maybe because the LED sits lower than stock.

I much prefer the beam from the KD reflectors,
thanks for doing all the legwork to find them, and then sharing the info…

Many thanks to jon and modderator for all the info you put here. Much apreciated!
I have ordered bunch of reflectors and due to work i was not home for last few months but your info will help me solve the mess i have created at my tiny “shop”.
EDIT: i still need to post my homemade triple conversion… hopefully in August when i reach my doorstep

isn’t clemence at Virence making these ?.
wouldn’t mind a custom built one HCRI Optisolis