update July 13th,
1.shipped 100PCS FW3C yesterday, and more FW3C and FW3A arrive today
will try to ship the orders in 3-4 days.
green tritium and yellow tritium out of stock, may need to change color.
Update July 10th
the Carclo 10511 optics arrive today,
Lumintop will start to assembly tomorrow and will ship to me this week
so I will start to ship all the orders from fridayfriday.
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update June 26th. for the resolution: A.ship with the new optics and a extra lensB. wait for the original 10511 optics
C.cancel the order
D. ship with the new optics, no lens. but will ship the optics and lens in your future order.
for the copper version,host is finished,if you choose A or D,then I will try to ship at next monday.
And copper version will have a free black tactic ring.
other news,GT nano 10440 and GT 10180, GT4 will be available soon.
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Hello,all the FW3A fans,I am Neal.
about the FW3A optics change issues, I make this announcement.
1.Reason for Lumintop to change the optics
- first,because it is hard to order the carclo optics,usually need to wait 3-4 weeks,the first batch they wait 6 weeks.
that is why the delay of the FW3A group buy start.
- second,the carclo optics actually made in china dongguan,lumintop find another optics company in dongguan,
that company is familiar with carclo, and said can make the same optics.after test the prototype,the performance almost same. but they make a fault to make extra optics and cancel the lens,this is the reason why the candelas are reduced.
- third,cost,carclo will be much more expensive than the new optics,they want to reduce the cost so that can sell it cheaper in the future.
2.resolution of the optics issues Lumintop already ordered the 10511 optics today,carclo replied need about 3 weeks.
- a. Include glass lens with new optic, to allow easy modding. accept the new optics and these can ship in 48 hours and change the optics yourself,the FW3A will add a original lens in the package.
- b. wait for new 10511 arrived,about 4 weeks ready to ship
- c. cancel the order
pls send email or PM to me about your choice.
Email:nealgadgetsfw3a@hotmail.com
Mail include your order number and your choice.
other description:
1.FW3C also no 10511 optics,will wait for 10511 optics,so the shipping will be delay.
2.color FW3A,Lumintop will produce purple,blue and green. purple version with have TK’s logo. they just make some prototype,like the following picture. I will talk with TK if it is ok.
3.for future optics.
the optics company are start to make another prototype to make it same as carclo 10511 optics.
if the result is good,will use that optics in the future.before it in production,will send them to TK,Kay and other reviews to compare.
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- By the way, I still have about 40pcs *10507 optics *in stock _ link: Carclo 10507 optics
- and I will have some tritium optics available to ship
Huge thanks for the clarification, Neal! You rock.
Neal,
Thanks for prompt and honest communication with the community. I see here a business admitting a mistake and looking to do right by its customers.
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Thank you Neal for the detailed reply with solutions.
Best regards to you….
Thanks to Lumintop also for addressing this issue.
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Thanks for taking care of this.
It seems like this plan should resolve pretty much everything about the recent FW3A changes… at least, as much as possible. People can get the original parts they ordered (when available), or they can get the new part plus a lens to keep it compatible with standard optics, or they can take an easy way out.
I have a prototype of the new optic, and it’s about halfway between a Carclo 10508 (medium-spot frosted) and 10511 (narrow spot frosted). So the beam is pretty decent. And I hear the production version is better, though I haven’t actually seen one yet. If you like a smooth beam which is floody (but not too floody), the new optic is a good option. If you need more throw, you can either wait for the original optic or swap one in yourself.
I don’t envy the work Neal will have to do in the next few weeks to sort this all out, but it sounds like things are at least pointed in the right direction.
Well done Neal, thank you!
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Thank you Neal, email sent
Thank you, Neal!
If I order a FW3A now, wil it have the new optics?
Excellent Neal!
Thank you a lot!
Will order the FW3A anyway, but will wait for the Carclo optic with lens.
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Reading the OP, LT ordered the 10511, ergo they don’t have it (yet), so atm. they put in new optics.
You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.
Thank you for all your work on this, Neal! Great that you’re keeping everyone up-to-date on the situation.
Thanks, Neal for the update. Emailed you.
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Neal thank you for explaining everything
Option a is good for me.
I will wait for new tritium optics and order more FW3A and that nice tritium optics and more
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Thanks so much my friend
For me the lens change isn’t a problem (as long as it can be changed by a Carclo) the real problem is remove the glass. It’s an unacceptable detail in a flashlight like this.
Hi Neal,
For option 2a: “ Include glass lens with new optic, to allow easy modding. accept the new optics and these can ship in 48 hours and change the optics yourself,the FW3A will add a original lens in the package”
Is this easy to do for someone like me who doesn’t know anything about “modding” at all? There is no risk on breaking things while doing this?
Yes, this is very easy.
Just swap the optic, put in the Carclo optic, and put it the lens.
Just wear clean gloves and do it a dust-free environment when doing it.
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Great, thanks Blue.
Just in case someone prepares his bike-, boxing-, garden-, or workshop-gloves:
I’m pretty sure he meant clean cotton gloves, to avoid fingerprints.
I myself use the cloth plus fluid I clean my glasses (with acryllic lenses) with. And keep things dust-free!
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One tip for dust-free (this also works for putting screen protectors on)
Do the work in the bathroom just after taking a shower. No dust in the air!
Wow. Genius! This will be one of my go-to tips, just like this one that has now saved my Olight S15R two times from the trash.
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Yes this works good.
I do this for a long time with screen protectors. Even managed to put 15.6’‘ protector on screen without dust.
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Thanks for a quick well thought out description of the issue and multiple solutions to keep everybody happy. I sent my email on my choice and will definitely consider ordering another in the future as other materials/colors come out.
Neal, Is option A the default option for existing orders. Will extra lens be included with order?
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Great solution Neal!
Which optic will be stock in the future?
3.“for future optics. the optics company are start to make another prototype to make it same as carclo 10511 optics. If the result is good, will use that optics in the future.before it in production,will send them to TK,Kay and other reviews to compare”.
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