FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

I tried this, then FB Messenger. Neal replied within minutes thru Messenger.

9pm US eastern time, is 9am his time. His hours are 9am to 10pm. :slight_smile:

Robin, normal business hours, in a (likely) one man operation, overseas, with small profit margins, are whenever the small business operator can get to his large workload. Teacher’s response is not emotional, it is logical. Your consideration of a PayPal dispute is emotional. PayPal disputes should be for unresolvable situations, and not applicable here, since three viable resolutions are available. Since you asked for a refund, I’m sure you will get one.

Have you yourself ever dealt with Neal before?? Or could it be you are basing your commentary on a few excerpts you have read from a few disgruntled customers. Have you read the tons of positive comments about dealings with Neal?

“Sluggishness”…… :person_facepalming: …. Not at all. I PM’d him this morning with my option A request and heard back in less than 5 minutes. We messaged back & forth 3 more times each about random things.

You want a refund, you’ll get it. Go ahead and do your PayPal thing… it will take you much, much, much longer to get it that way. :wink:
edit to add: Not to even mention you will appear to be a ’nut case’ since Neal has already offered a Full Refund.

I got that impression from your first post. If you had read closely Neal asked us to Email or PM him with our choices. He never once mentioned “live chat” to address this issue. To bad you didn’t use PM here on BLF…. you might well have received a speedier reply…. as I did.

No “emotional response” here. Just commenting on the ridiculousness of your expectations, as well as you basing some of those expectations NOT on your past personal experience with this vendor…… but the experience of a few unhappy people. And do not forget, you only hear the side of the story the “unhappy people” present.

There are always two sides to every story……

Buying from China isn’t for the impatient, plain and simple. If you don’t mind waiting, you’ll usually get a really nice product at an unbelievable price. And you’ll even find a few places that offer very good customer service given the circumstances, and Neal is one of the best of them.

Please feel free to state the facts here about whatever problems you’re running into with the FW3A. But please limit it to the facts, state your case (once), and leave it at that. And please avoid fighting and arguing at all costs. Thanks in advance.

Group Buys are obviously not for everyone.

It’s to bad more people, instead of just being interested in a good deal & deep discount; do not thoroughly read the OP & pay special attention to the parts such as I have quoted below.

A word of warning for BLF specials:
The BLF part is done by BLFers who do it in their spare time, despite they may seem professionals and the work they do is at professional level, BLF is not our full time job. So give us a break and relax if thing are not going as fast as you want.

Nothing is sure so expect waiting:

- Waiting for news and updates.

- Waiting for the project to come to fruition.

- Waiting till the result can finally be ordered.

  • And then waiting for arrival at your home, shipping from China can take a long time.
    So relax, enjoy the many other facets of BLF while you wait and remember:
    It is done when it is done:slight_smile:

Just to be clear, I never said I “emailed”. I said I “sent PM’s here on BLF”. That is most likely the difference in our experiences this morning. I got a timely response.

Yes they are. And you can be 100% positive if Neal offers a Full Refund…. you will get it.

Not yet, but I’ll be sure to measure it if I ever have a SST-20 version.

It sounds like people can still get the original optic though, if they’re willing to wait a few weeks for parts. Or for SST-20 it may be desirable to use the 10507 optic intead, to maximize throw.

Your eyes are not “Photoshopping” you, they are for real !!

So… a lot happened in the past couple days. Apologies if I missed anything. I’m just now catching up on the thread.

I’ve been a bit busy, but I finally got a picture of the color samples. I really like how vivid the pinkish purple color is:

… and another shot with two more lights included — bare titanium and Convoy’s darker blueish purple.

On that note, I updated the button logo concept image to better clarify which parts should be etched:

This is obviously just photoshopped, but the point is to clearly communicate the idea to whoever does the etching.

TK, I’m calling that one grape…

If you jam Neal up by disputing charges I hope you will get banned here

TK, Beautiful colors! First post here. BTW, I ordered two lights recently and tried to contact Neal without much luck Thankfully, reading the posting above, I sent a pm from here as suggested and minutes later he got my questions answered. It is a different contact system but was easy once I took time to read here. Looking forward to learning great things and burning fingers.

The purple FW3A sample looks really good. I’m not quite sure what to call it.

Just for the fun of it, I grabbed the hex codes for most of the shades of purple listed on Wikipedia and put them beside the sample.

As far as that specific picture with it’s specific lighting and camera goes, palatinate looks quite a good match. Though HTML/CSS purple (“patriarch”) isn’t that far either.

P.S. That Convoy purple though, I don’t think I’ve seen it before. At first glance it looked a lot like web Indigo (4B0082) but after looking at it for a while it’s not quite that. Neat nevertheless.

Isn’t the SST-20 version a quad rather than tri-emitter version? If so, presumably it would need a different optic. How is it impacted by the Lumintop-Carclo situation?

Welcome to BLF! I hope you enjoy it here!! :+1:

No it is not a quad. All factory FW3A’s are triples. :slight_smile:

The SST-20 version is a triple as well. Some on BLF have modded their FW3A’s to be quads, though.

I like ‘Dark’ Purple……. even a bit darker than the Convoy Purple …… anyone else? :neutral_face:

No