Hi all,
Just getting caught up here. I ordered another FW3A with sst-20 back on 6/13, if I do nothing will I get option B automatically?
The wait doesnāt bother me and I donāt really understand the optics well enough to know what Iād be getting or giving up with option Aā¦ 
I like the idea of a very wide spot anyway, so I will be swapping the optic in the flashlight. That said, Iām not an expert modder, so unscrewing the bezel in a dust free environment is about the extent of my expertise.
A certain supplier of Carclo optics has the option on the 10508 optic for āCarclo XP-L Mod (not necesary for XPL-HI or Nichia 219) +$1.50ā Anyone know if this will be necessary for SST-20 emitters?
No, this is not for the SST-20.
This is only needed to fit the larger dome of the xp-l.
Just to be sure. If you received your light as part of the original group buy then it already has the correct optic with glass lens installed?
If you have a glass lens and a TIR behind it, you have the ācorrect opticā.
The biggest issue with the optic they decided to substitute for the Carlco was that it was a one piece solution. It didnāt come with the glass lens, and you couldnāt just swap it out for a proper Carlco unless you had that glass lens (or a suitable replacement).
I only care because I may want to swap it out eventually, and I dislike proprietary parts/software/etc where there is no measurable benefit to using them (for me anyway).
EDIT:
I realize now that you are probably talking about a light that is as yet not delivered (so you canāt just check yourself) and wondering if you are going to receive the Carlco/glass comboā¦ I can only speak for myself because I donāt know when the cutoff happened, but I received the glass/Carlco combo on my order (NW XPL) and I was a way down the list for getting the code.
It should, but if unsure; just check & see if it has a glass lens. :+1:
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Edit; When did you order? If you already have it, just check & see.
If it is one you have ordered Neal cover this in his Optics Thread.. Which happens to be the OP of this thread.
This image helps checking that:
update June 26th.
for the resolution:
A.ship with the new optics and a extra lens
B. wait for the original 10511 optics
C.cancel the order
D. ship with the new optics, no lens. but will ship the optics and lens in your future order.
for the copper version,host is finished,if you choose A or D,then I will try to ship at next monday.
And copper version will have a free black tactic ring.
other news,GT nano 10440 and GT 10180, GT4 will be available soon.
Oh my god the small GTs are adorable, donāt do this to my wallet
Hot stuff, Neal.
Okay Neal, sent you a PM regarding my FW3C order.
Thanks
sorry for the dalay of the lens,
I will ship the copper FW3A to who choose A or D
They look beautiful!
Thanks for those pics Neal.
Iām very excited to get my 219 Cu and SST Cu
those are some beautiful copper lights! congrats on making it happen.
Very much looking forward to Ti Cu and maybe stainless copper also!
these are some fancy lights! I am kind of glad I waited so long 
copper looks amazing.
Ok, so I asked about the tritium optic, and then I read the beginning of this thread and Iām confused because I never knew about the original issue.
Could someone clarify?
10511 - āoriginalā - better? Worse? In what way?
10507 - ānewā - better? Worse? In what way? - āPolycarbonate (not PMMA)ā whatās better for lenses?
āSapphire Lens for FW3Aā - is this a requirement under some circumstances? What size is for what option?
Is there a way to have the tritium inserts and the ābetterā optic?
Itās mentioned elsewhere, and it would probably turn up in a search without too much effortā¦ Iāll attempt a summary here.
Lumintop had some difficulty getting the original Carlco optics from their supplier in the volume/time frame they needed.
Lumintop found another supplier that said they could make similar optics. These were āokā by most reports (these lost some lumens, but the color was ok) but they were a one piece lens+optic combo. The bad thing here is that you donāt get the glass lens, and it isnāt a super standard size. If you got the new non-carlco optic, you couldnāt just pop in a Carlco unless you had a lens already (or bought the sapphire one).
Neal started this thread to give us options.
I think the sapphire thing was just another customization option like the glow gaskets. Sapphire is used on watches for durability, and some people wanted their FW3A lens to be more durable for EDC.
As far as Iām aware, the 10511 is frosted (more floody/diffused) and the 10507 is clear (less floody, more defined hotspot). āBetterā is subjective hereā¦ get what you like. The ānewā optic is more similar to the original than the 10507.
The tritium optics are just standard Carlco tir optics, where the support legs have been drilled out for tritium vials. if you preferred a specific model Carlco and couldnāt find it in Nealās store or from here , you could modify one yourself (they can be purchased stateside for less than $2/ea). Here is a tutorial.
Very helpful, f0xx!
From reading the descriptions, it looks like the most floody optic would be the 10509. Do you think thatās right?
I desire a very floody beam for my light. I searched for some beam shots but didnāt turn up much. I would love to know how the 10509 compares to the S41Sās beam (more or less floody).
Iām going to look for a mod that turns the light into a mule. Maybe thatās trivial?
Edit: I found post #354 from the mods thread with the 10509. That looks like what I want. Iāll have to drill it out and put trits in!