The 50.2 is a chunky emitter not known for throw. It’s a lot more light, but not as much throw.
I think the xpl-hi IS about the same size die as a sliced SST-40. The SST-40 might be a little brighter. IDK if anyone has done the swap. Surely someone tried.
Personally i would compare the throw of the XHP50.2 to a XML2 yea not great but not the worse plus you get the extra output over what the XML2 has. Because of the flip chip design it performs better than the standard XHP50.
You could use an 18650 and lead sleeve to make it “feel” higher quality.
Seriously though, weight is just thermal mass (which is definitely good for the xhp50.2…) but anyone who takes a midsize thrower backpacking will likely appreciate the light weight.
I never understood where the heavier = better quality came from.
I wasn’t going to keep the 5700K SST-40 in my FT03, and the focus in my copy was not great anyway, so I took the gamble of hot dedoming it (lifting the dome off with a scalpel while the led is still hot from the reflow plate).
It wasn’t my worst SST-40 dedome and not my best. Some phosfor came off and that shows in the beam.
Outdoors the beam is well usable though, fine beam…
The tint in the hotspot is a typical dedomed tint, a bit yellowish, but not too bad (4930K, duv +0.007, 64CRI).
I did not modify the centerpiece but the focus is better now than with dome on, great job Astrolux! . And the centerpiece does not really center: the hole is too wide for the led and the edge of the hole even slides over the led if the centering is well off. So it is a matter of trial and error opening and closing the bezel to hopefully end up with a led in the center, which I eventually managed (I hate it when a manufacturer fails to solve the centering issue ).
I did not measure it before but the output on a black 5000K Liitokala after 30 seconds is now 1780 lumen, and the throw is 340 kcd. Good numbers but I still think with a bit of luck one could get 400 kcd out of a dedomed SST-40.
I’m new to dedoming. Never done it before. Is there a way I can safely dedome this LED without damaging it? The throws good but i need more just…because
There are people who claim succesful dedoming using magic potions (like toluene and such) but personally I only had some success with hot dedoming the SST-40, but as you see it is risky.
Thanks for the numbers mine with the sliced dome got the same results as yours but mine is the cold white tint would that make much of a difference? Seeing as its only a few hundred kelvin apart?
Yea i think a proper dedome will yield better result than mine. if you have a XHP50.2 spare put it in your FT03 its so much fun.
@JasonWW: Thanks for the DTA video. Well… i hardly see a reason to go with the less powerful SST40. Looking at the video i most certainly want the XHP50.2 version: more power, wider hotspot but a little less throw - not that much either. Can’t tell much of the spill though. At least that’s what i see in the video… Any argument there?