[M4D deal] Convoy L21A / M21A groupbuy

Mine shipped out finally! Thanks for the code. I’ve got two brand new 21700’s sitting here charged and waiting.

Also, what is white flat? I’m assuming a particular LED, but I don’t know which.

https://led4power.com/product/osram-kw-cslnm1-tg-1mm2-die-bare/

https://led4power.com/product/osram-kw-cslpm1-tg-2mm2-throw-king-bare/

I see, so more throw then. Are we talking a pencil beam just good for showing off, or still a usable search beam?

I’ve got another LED question. Do any of you know of any good throw LEDs that are more around 5000K? I see Acebeam I think it is got some SST-40s that are, but I can’t find them. I just don’t know anything about thrower LEDs, so not sure what to look at.

Yep, i bought some
I upgraded my c8 with the 1mm and i got over 200kCd!
I bought the 2mm for my L21a, but need to buy new cells first since the brand new shockli cells i bought dont fit.

In a C8 it’s a very good mid to long range beam. Usable spill… In a L2 it starts to become a pencil beam.

I will see what I think of the throw and beam. That looks like an interesting LED. I really would just like something warmer.

You guys had me worried for a moment about the cell diameter, but I just measured my Samsungs and they are about 20.7-20.8.

Would you be able to get some before and after beam shots at a decent range for me? I’d like to see what the beams look like. I keep seeing about how the white is more white with less green or other nasty tint shifts with the flat white. Which does sound appealing. Did you buy yours already on a PCB or are you reflowing?

I bought the LED already on MCPCB, since i have never reflowed a led, maybe i should just try it and become familiar with it.

The beam is CW and throws very well just with the standard driver (2,8A)
Centering the LED is key, but it took me quite some time and several attemts to get it right.

You will get a lower Lumen output compared with XPL hi, but way more focused, which gives you that enormous throw for such a small light.

It’s my understanding this particular LED is hard to reflow, not a good one to start with.

Thanks for the feedback. I assumed it was CW, is the color any better than the SST-40? What size will I need for this light if I decide to try it?

If you guys want a NW throwy LED, try the SST-20 5000k 70CRI.

I had considered that, but I wasn’t sure how it compares to the SST-40. So I am doing research now that you put the idea in my head. From what I see so far the 20 is comparable to/better than and XPL HI which I believe was popular in the last gen of throwers right? So it may be plenty sufficient.

The SST20 performs slightly better then XPL-HI, but personally i don’t like the tint, i have put one 5000K in a BLF A6 and i cant remember exactly why, but the tint is off (blueish, greenish ?)
possibly the OSRAM KW CSLPM1.TG - 2mm2 throw king will be way better, i’ll try that soon

Just found this video with an L2 using a wf1 (this would be the 1mm2 one right?). I actually don’t mind the color considering it is 6500k. It’s not overly blue like I am used to, actually it doesn’t seem blue at all.

So if we were to use the 2mm2 wf that should give more output and a slightly larger hotspot right? Plus the L21A has more amps than a regular L2. This thing should be a beast with this LED. I am going to order one from LED4Power.

EDIT: Forgot the video! xD

The m21a finally arrived. Is it normal to not come with extra o rings or even a small fold up manual? This is my first convoy and I’m not familiar with the ui at all. As far as I can tell it’s just low, medium, high, turbo. No double click to go straight into turbo, no strobe. I just want to make sure I’m not missing it if it’s there. I can do without the spare o rings but a manual would have been nice. I don’t even know the lumen output of each setting.

Unfortunately, no manual is common.
My L21a came without any accessories as well

I quick search gave me this;
Modes : 0.1–3–30–100 max current output is 6000mA

Thanks for the info!

Still waiting for my L21A. Glad to hear some have gotten their lights! Looking forward to feedback.

Sometimes by the time these banggood orders arrive, I forgot I bought the damn thing lol.

Hahaha. Mine left China on the 21st I think based on the tracking. So it should be any day now based on my last order.

Are you referring to the L2 then? The L21A has a 6A driver and SST-40. Which BTW, mine arrived today! Quite the little beast, it is really cool. I’m considering getting the WF for mine, I will play with it a little first.