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So long as we are making demands upon our volunteer firmware developer(s), some means of using a config file would be fantastic. If only there were a decent way to get it into the device.

In reality, I’m well aware of the difficulties with such an unreasonable request, and as a volunteer at a large volunteer-run makerspace can appreciate the problems associated with voluntelling.

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Before I go wiring everything up (I have all the hardware now), I want to confirm the silk-screen labeling on the driver board.  "MI" would be third pad from the left and "MO" would be the far right pad ? ?   Or the other way around?  I don't want to assume . . .

 

 

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That is the assumption I would make. Seems to follow the labeling.

From what I also understand, as long as you are not flashing the fuses, you can repeat if it’s not wired/via’d correctly without harm.

ToyKeeper has said something similar:

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1533432#comment-1533432

The command does not have any fuse values in it because of two reasons:

The fuse values should not need to be changed.
Attempting to flash new fuse values is risky because it can make the MCU unflashable.
So that part is left out on purpose. As long as the user does not try to change the fuse values, it should be safe to reflash as many times as necessary.

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Terry Oregon wrote:
Before I go wiring everything up (I have all the hardware now), I want to confirm the silk-screen labeling.

Here’s the layout:

RESETGND
VCCSCKMISOMOSI
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Terry Oregon wrote:
Before I go wiring everything up (I have all the hardware now), I want to confirm the silk-screen labeling.
Here's the layout:
  RESET GND  
VCC SCK MISO MOSI

Thanks, assumption correct. 

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All that said, I’m really torn . . . I really want a toy and a useful tool . . . At best, you get something that leans one way or the other.

Yeah, I hear you, WalkIntoTheLight. I’m torn, too, between the poles of robustness on the one hand and innovation on the other. I suppose I want Anduril to “lean” toward innovation, in part because there are emergent features (e.g., adjustable color temperature) that I want. And in part because there are already so many options on the robust tool end of the scale. There are Malkoff or Elzetta (with potted electronics, mechanical switches, etc.). And, if those are out of reach, there are Zebralight or Olight or Acebeam. I do think of my Emisar lights as tools, but as exotic ones. In 2005, my first LiIon powered light, the CPF Peak Rainier, was universally regarded as a toy (and a dangerous toy, with no thermal or timed step down). Now-a-days, reliable LiIon powered lights are mainstream tools. My first programmable Ra was a far cry from a current HDS, let alone a D4V2. I just want to encourage innovation to continue, but I totally get the concern over side effects.
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ToyKeeper,

I think I'm 95% there. After spending all afternoon building a fixture and installing software onto my Lenovo desktop, I'm finally able to "initialize" the D4V2 driver board - which I think means almost everything is working. The commands I'm using are underlined in blue, are they correct? It's my understanding we can ignore the sck error.

But, as you see, there's a signature error which keeps me from actually flashing.

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Device signature = 0x1e9412

avrdude: Expected signature for ATtiny13 is 1E 90 07

Double check chip, or use -F to override this check.

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It’s an ATTiny1634 chip, or t1634… not t13 or t85.

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What DB Custom said. Replace t13 and t85 with t1634 on both commands and that error will go away.

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 Thanks, now I'm getting this

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Terry Oregon wrote:
Thanks, now I’m getting this

It looks like you may need a newer version of avrdude. The one you have appears to be from 2010, and attiny1634 was created in 2011.

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I hope there will be a thread just for the instructions and help with flashing of the D4V2.  There's no way I'll want to try and sift through this thread for examples and tips after I get my kit from Hank, especially having no clue ATM, on the flashing process.

 

If there is going to be a specific D4V2 flashing thread, please link to it from this thread.  I'm going to need all the tips and detailed instructions I can get, all in one place.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Terry Oregon wrote:
Thanks, now I'm getting this
It looks like you may need a newer version of avrdude. The one you have appears to be from 2010, and attiny1634 was created in 2011.

Well this is where I'm stumped, I can't find a version that has t1634 support.

I'm was using version 6.3 from here (which says it's from 2016). Still same error message.  Another site said the latest version was here, but that's the one from 2010.

ToyKeeper, do you (or anyone else) have a link to a version of avrdude that's guaranteed to have 1634 support?

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Terry Oregon wrote:

ToyKeeper wrote:
Terry Oregon wrote:
Thanks, now I’m getting this
It looks like you may need a newer version of avrdude. The one you have appears to be from 2010, and attiny1634 was created in 2011.

Well this is where I’m stumped, I can’t find a version that has t1634 support.


I’m was using version 6.3 from here (which says it’s from 2016). Still same error message.  Another site said the latest version was here, but that’s the one from 2010.


ToyKeeper, do you (or anyone else) have a link to a version of avrdude that’s guaranteed to have 1634 support?


Please try this one.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XEVlyF9×5atOdHOB9PVObWHJOJ6_dEaq/view?...

command: avrdude -c usbasp -p t1634 -u -Uflash:w:filename.hex

type in command. connect pins to driver pads then press enter to run flashing
connect

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Thanks Hank, but . . .

"sorry, the file you have requested does not exist"

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Please try this one.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XEVlyF9×5atOdHOB9PVObWHJOJ6_dEaq/view?...

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srvctec wrote:

I hope there will be a thread just for the instructions and help with flashing of the D4V2.  There’s no way I’ll want to try and sift through this thread for examples and tips after I get my kit from Hank, especially having no clue ATM, on the flashing process.


 


If there is going to be a specific D4V2 flashing thread, please link to it from this thread.  I’m going to need all the tips and detailed instructions I can get, all in one place.

There will be definately a specifit D4V2 reflasing thread, including how to use the software and hardware, as soon as the software is installed into your PC, the reflasing process is simple, the whole reflasing process takes about 20 seconds. I hope there will be video to demostrate how to reflash the firmware as well.

As for the price of the reflashing kits, it’s $8.5 including registered shipping for D4V2 owners, while the regular price is $18.5.

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Hank Wang wrote:
There will be definately a specifit D4V2 reflasing thread, including how to use the software and hardware, as soon as the software is installed into your PC, the reflasing process is simple, the whole reflasing process takes about 20 seconds. I hope there will be video to demostrate how to reflash the firmware as well. As for the price of the reflashing kits, it's $8.5 including registered shipping for D4V2 owners, while the regular price is $18.5.

 

Excellent news and thanks for the reply, Hank!

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If I remember correctly you said that the kits will be at cost for the first batch of D4V2? Will you have a way to see who ordered from the first batch and sell them at cost or will there be another way? Regardless Im very excited to buy a kit and learn a new skill in the process.

Edit: I have little to no experience with flashing. The only mod I have ever done was removing the orginal bezel of the D4v2 and and adding the stainless steel one. So I guess Im in the same boat as others.

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Terry Oregon wrote:

Thanks Hank, but . . .


sorry, the file you have requested does not exist


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Please try this one.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XEVlyF9×5atOdHOB9PVObWHJOJ6_dEaq/view?…

Just sent the file via email

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Dougdimadome wrote:
If I remember correctly you said that the kits will be at cost for the first batch of D4V2? Will you have a way to see who ordered from the first batch and sell them at cost or will there be another way? Regardless Im very excited to buy a kit and learn a new skill in the process.
Yes, the regular price is $18.5, the D4V2 owers can buy the kist at $8.5 per one including registered shipping, the cost of the kits is not high, the mian cost is the time to solder the pins onto the pcb precisely, and test them working before shipping.
Basically, all the D4V2 shipped before July, 19 are with muggle mode bug, so, those D4V2 owers can leave their order number and they will buy the kits at $8.5 per one.

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Terry Oregon wrote:

Thanks Hank, but . . .


sorry, the file you have requested does not exist


Quote:
Please try this one.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XEVlyF9×5atOdHOB9PVObWHJOJ6_dEaq/view?…

Basically, you will see this page when the reflashing process is done.

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I’m a man… I can change, if I have to… I guess…
Just wanted you to know that your reference didn’t fall on deaf ears. Wink

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Hank Wang wrote:
Terry Oregon wrote:

Thanks Hank, but . . .

"sorry, the file you have requested does not exist"

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Please try this one.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XEVlyF9×5atOdHOB9PVObWHJOJ6_dEaq/view?...

Just sent the file via email

Never mind, got it (was in spam folder). Thanks, I'll see how it goes.

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Come to find out, my AVRdude also doesn’t support the Attiny1634. Terry Oregon, would you be able to make the file available?

I’ve got everything ready, even some .bat files to make the flashing easier. Just waiting on Oshpark to finish making and then ship the keys. Didn’t think this would be an issue.

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Hank,

When and how do we begin ordering these flashing kits?
Will you be reaching out via email to everyone with a first batch light, so they will have the first chance to order at the lower price?

(BTW, I have two of these muggle bugged DV2s,and have not yet gotten a email warning me about the problem. I hope that I am the exception.)

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BabyDoc wrote:
Hank,

When and how do we begin ordering these flashing kits?
Will you be reaching out via email to everyone with a first batch light, so they will have the first chance to order at the lower price?

(BTW, I have two of these muggle bugged DV2s,and have not yet gotten a email warning me about the problem. I hope that I am the exception.)

i’m in the same boat. haven’t heard anything on the glitch in my email. would also like to order my reflash kit asap. this is a great light, with an awesome UI….. when the glitches are worked out so i’d like to get mine in full, proper working order as well.

(My 69th post, giggity)

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BREAK OUT THE BAND !! 

 

Finally got it to work with Hank's files. Actually, at first, Hank's files also gave me the t1634 error.  However, when I rebooted my computer, everything started working.  I suspect that Windows was using a version of avrdude.conf that was in it's memory. That original "conf" file is where support for the all the chip parameters are stored.  I think rebooting caused the avrdude.exe to use the new avrdude.conf file. That's my theory.

 

This is my test jig, the key-pcb is hard-wired to the USB board.  The USB board was from Amazon HERE, so I can confirm it works - and it looks exactly like the one Hank is using.  I would wear a ground strap if handling these exposed PCBs (they are shipped in anti-static bags).

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BabyDoc wrote:
Hank, When and how do we begin ordering these flashing kits? Will you be reaching out via email to everyone with a first batch light, so they will have the first chance to order at the lower price? (BTW, I have two of these muggle bugged DV2s,and have not yet gotten a email warning me about the problem. I hope that I am the exception.)

 

 

FritzHID wrote:
[i'm in the same boat. haven't heard anything on the glitch in my email. would also like to order my reflash kit asap. this is a great light, with an awesome UI..... when the glitches are worked out so i'd like to get mine in full, proper working order as well. (My 69th post, giggity)

 

The answer is just a few posts above.

 

Hank Wang wrote:
Yes, the regular price is $18.5, the D4V2 owers can buy the kist at $8.5 per one including registered shipping, the cost of the kits is not high, the mian cost is the time to solder the pins onto the pcb precisely, and test them working before shipping. Basically, all the D4V2 shipped before July, 19 are with muggle mode bug, so, those D4V2 owers can leave their order number and they will buy the kits at $8.5 per one.
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I assume this will include those who ordered from MTN Elec. in USA…?

Or will MTN stock them too?

Thanks!

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