TK's Emisar D4V2 review

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TK, could you add the "Summary- emitter differences" table from your D4 v.1 review, to this review now that the Luminus LEDs are available? I really like those comparisons.

I got my flashing kit the other day too but I can’t find the instructions now. They need to be stickied or something because they’re too hard to find, can anyone point me in the right direction?

Edit: Maybe I just missed it…

That link in your post goes straight to the instructions. Doesn't it?

budgetlightforum.com/node/68263

I edited my post after I found the link and pasted it in there, I just didn’t mention I edited it since I’m on my phone.

Also, what are the differences between the 7/19 file and 8/5 file on ToyKeeper’s site?

This is what ToyKeeper told me:

Thanks. I think i just flashed it, I’ll have to read the thread again and see how to test things to make sure it worked.

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Family emergency kept me offline for several months, then I returned to find the D4V2. Took me 3 or 4 days to read every post in this thread. Now I think I’ve got to have it, and I’ll probably be posting my D4 collection for sale when I get time to take some pictures.

Reading this thread left me wondering about a couple of things:

(1) I see how the thermal-management code error made the light overheat when it came on unattended. But I apparently missed any comments describing why the thermal code error made the light come on in the first place, or why the unexpected turn-on was voltage-dependent. Are these things now understood, and considered in the fix implementation?

(2) There was at least one mention of a D4V2 getting hot when the battery was reversed, but I don’t think it generated any discussion. I realize that I never learned why the D4V1 reverse-polarity protection didn’t work - I’m just careful inserting cells. What exactly was done to “fix” the RP protection, and do we just assume the reported incident was erroneous? Or did I possibly miss a follow-up report?

Love the concept of the V2, got to have it. And while I bought 18350 tubes for all of my D4 and D1 collection, I regretted not getting the 18500 tubes as well. I’ll be buying both for this one.

I’m sure you will get a better answer but as I recall the issue came into being because of the new multi-color emitters. Implementing a sleep mode that could leave enough life in the MCU to color change also left the light trying to find the temperature while searching for low voltage protection in the off stage. This looped over and turned the light on. TK checked the light extensively but of course had no idea a 15 minute delay could cause a loop, she found it, rewrote the code in that area, and fixed the issue.

Reverse Polarity Protection is implemented on the driver through the diode, which only flows current one way. It should not have been possible for the light to heat up due to an inverted cell. Something else was going on that we don’t have the story on. A loose strand of wire or something, but it wasn’t due to the protection failing. A fail would be the diode fails and then the light wouldn’t work at all, correct installation or not.

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Means, it is recommended to update to 2019-08-05, even if firmare 2019-07-19 was installed? Sorry if I ask the obvious.

I would, but I like keeping my lights on the latest version.

Anything post “muggle mode fix” should be ok though

Just re-flashed mine to the latest, not for any real reason other than it was written a few days before my birthday. :slight_smile:

Dale, is it correct to say there is a diode in series with the battery that was not present in the D4? I’d also assume this means the V2 is less efficient, more voltage drop, especially at higher current? And should this be noticeable as a “less powerful” turbo mode in the V2?

Or is the implementation such that the series diode only prevents activation of the driver, and is not in the FET high-current path?

The diode, D1, is inline with the the MCU power supply.

Not sure how “less powerful” could actually apply as power potential is such a variable with different cells or even a dirty (not cleaned before installing) cell. Any potential loss would be undetectable to our eyes anyway.

If it were in series with the battery (but it sounds like it isn’t), and the diode drop were only 0.4 volts, the applied voltage would “appear” to be 3.8 when actually 4.2. That’s why I was wondering about the actual connection.

But from your earlier reply, it sounds like it is only between the battery and the driver, and the FET is direct-connected to the battery.

What are the best 18350s to use with the D4?

Keeppower IMR 18350 1200mAh - 10A