FW1A with a XHP50.2 feeler list

Hello my dear friends!

Maybe you did not find a FW3A variant that fits your needs?
Maybe you just want them all??

Soooooo:
Here is a feeler with the chance, that your wish could be reality…
(you can skip the email part and post below: "please PM me when its alive!"

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Form until 02.10.2019 20:59:17
166 answers
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I’d buy one but in titanium just because lol.

An uglier beam and worse tint vs basically any of the options available for the FW3X, I’ll pass. Doubt it would out-throw the XPL HI or SST-20 even with a reflector.

Interested just cause I want them all. PM me if it happens.

I want them all! (I know it’s a problem.)

I love XHP50/70, I will make frosted glass for it and it will be perfect!
But I would prefer in a classic body Lumintop.

Nice, please PM me when its alive!

XHP50.2 in 21700 + OP reflector with copper pill + without trit holes so head’s wall could be thinner
This is my idea :partying_face:

What are the pro’s and cons of an XHP50.2 versus the existing options ?

not as bright but tighter as the FW3A i think
but not as tight (but brighter) ad the XP-L HI in the first FW1A

The main and decisive advantage of the XHP50/70 is that it is noticeably less heated and long runtime.
You can shine for a long time 1000Lm without stepdowns until you run out of battery and your hand burns.
According to my rough estimates, one XHP50/70 is comparable as 7-9 3535LED in modes up to 1000Lm. And in turbo XHP50 it is comparable as a triple, in turbo XHP70 is comparable as a quadruple.
If you do not like the light of the reflector compared to the TIR-optics of the triple, then you can replace the transparent glass with frosted glass or use a frosted film for lamination. It will turn out a very flood light.

Ooooo! Seconded!

One XHP50.2@1Amp have 1055 T_A lm output, 183 lm/W: Testing a Cree XHP50.2 J4 3A led
Four LH351D (@0.5Amp each) have 1124 T_A lm output, 198 lm/W: Samsung LH351D 5000k LED output test by Texas_Ace - Amazing output, low thermal resistance but high Vf

Wow, that’s quite a huge difference in efficiency. I only have 1 XHP50.2 light, a Zebralight SC600w IV Plus, and I really like that it generates relatively little heat at similar outputs to the XHP35 Zebras I own. The tint shift of it isn’t great, though, but with a frosted lens you wouldn’t notice.

Though I’m not a fan of the quality issues the FW3A’s have experienced, a FW1A with the XHP50.2 does sound intriguing, if for no other reason than a boost in efficiency and longer run-times at high output.

I don’t understand the desire to put every light in a 21700 body, especially pocket-lights. It turns a small pocket light into an awkwardly large light in your pocket. Completely goes against the purpose of the FWXX. You get a modest increase in capacity over an 18650, but no where near enough to justify the decrease in usability as an EDC.

I totally understand for larger lights, like a thrower or a light meant to be hand-held on a walk. But small lights? I don’t get it.

This is interesting data.
As a user, I proceed from the real temperature behavior of flashlights. I do not like to burn my hands, and I have to shine long and brightly. Most often I use a brightness of about 1000 lumens and collected some data. From these data, I concluded that the XHP50 in 1000-1200 lumens has serious advantages:
Air temperature 24°C, without cooling.
Sofirt C8F 3*XP-L(990Lm) – 58°C 20 minutes later. And (650Lm) 50°C 20 minutes later.
Sofirt SP33 1*XHP50.2(1000Lm) – 41°C 20 minutes later and 47°C 60 minutes later.
BLF Q8 4*XP-L(~1100Lm “Group6-Mid2”) – 47°C 20 minutes later.
YLP G180 9*XP-G2 (800Lm) 45°C 60 minutes later. And (1400Lm) 69°C 60 minutes later.
Wowtac A5 1*XHP70.2(1800Lm) – 58°C 20 minutes later.
Eagtac DX3B Clicky 1*XHP50.2(850Lm) – 47°C 20 minutes later.

I tested LH351D only the HI-СRI 4000K version and these flashlights were heated in about the same way XP-L 5000K.

This!

It would be very hard for the XHP50.2 to be as efficient as 7-9 35x35 emitters considering it’s basically 4 XP-G3s on one pad.