Lumintop FW1A discussion and review

[bmengineer]

Varbos if you’re going to get silly you might as well mention the one variant I’d actually be interested in - FW1A GT, a D1S sized (or slightly larger) thrower with a tail switch.
…but for now let’s stick with what we have. Hopefully I can get my hands on an FW1A soon!

[Kulumatic]

The 21700 variant is already on its way…

[M4D deal] 21700 FW3A presale list

Hello my dear friends! Lumintop and Neal make a 500 pcs run of a 21700 version of the FW3A [image] [image] [image][image] [image] SPECS (will be added as available) – size: – weight: – same LEDs and driver as 18650 FW3A (XPL HI 1A/3D / SST20 4000k / nichia 219c 4000k) – more mass (might help with thermal problems) – 6 tritium slots (1.5x6mm) in the head – 4 tritium slots (1.5x6mm) in the tailcap – price will be veery similar to FW3A ;) groupbuy rules : first ru…

[contactcr]

who will be the first person to convert their FW1A to a triple with a big Aluminum heatsink?

[id30209]

@contactcr

who will be the first person to convert their FW1A to a triple with a big Aluminum heatsink?

Daaamn O_O

[Tally-ho]

@varbos

@roguesoul

Now for perfection it just needs 21700.

Lumintop leaked line-up for 2020:
FW3A in 14 new colors
FW3W (made of wood)
FW1C (copper)
FW1T (ti)
FW2A (2 emitters)
FW4A (quad)
FW3A 21700
FW1A 21700
FW7A 26550
FW3A mini (1xAA)
FW3A micro (button cell)
FW3A UV
more to be announced …

No FW3B (brass) and maybe FW3BC (brass with Cu head) ?
No FW3A original (1st prototype) ?

[mattlward]

@ActiveAl

FWIW, I opted for free shipping with my FW1A order, and the tracking number was received via email on Wed, Sep 18, 2019 2:59 am EDT. If I like the light, I may buy another in blue or non-anodized - if/when this option become available. Thanks Neal - good job on getting this out!

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Update - apparently my FW1A is already in the States:

Origin:
2019-09-18 07:06, FREMONT, CA 94538, Picked Up by Shipping Partner, USPS Awaiting Item -> Your item was picked up by a shipping partner at 7:06 am on September 18, 2019 in FREMONT, CA 94538. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
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That is what tracking on mine looks like as well, not sure that it really means it is in the States.

[trakcon]

@mattlward

@ActiveAl

FWIW, I opted for free shipping with my FW1A order, and the tracking number was received via email on Wed, Sep 18, 2019 2:59 am EDT. If I like the light, I may buy another in blue or non-anodized - if/when this option become available. Thanks Neal - good job on getting this out!

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Update - apparently my FW1A is already in the States:

Origin:
2019-09-18 07:06, FREMONT, CA 94538, Picked Up by Shipping Partner, USPS Awaiting Item -> Your item was picked up by a shipping partner at 7:06 am on September 18, 2019 in FREMONT, CA 94538. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.
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That is what tracking on mine looks like as well, not sure that it really means it is in the States.

Mine looked like that as well, and then magically showed up at my home a few days later.

[bmengineer]

Today was a good day.

[ToyKeeper]

Looking forward to more details, especially about the beam.

[trakcon]

@ToyKeeper

Looking forward to more details, especially about the beam.

Same here. I’m also interested in current draw with the FET.

[dmsoule]

bmengineer - does this use a 16mm or 20mm star? Thanks.

[LedTed]

@bmengineer

Today was a good day.

Good for you, and nice pix!

[trailhunter]

Anyone know what smooth reflector would fit this? Going to build osram variants.

[bmengineer]

@dmsoule

bmengineer - does this use a 16mm or 20mm star? Thanks.

If assume the same as the FW3A, but I’ll check eventually.

[MascaratumB]

@trailhunter

Anyone know what smooth reflector would fit this? Going to build osram variants.

Looking forward to see them
Had the same idea some days ago! But I guess I will only get one of these in case the Osram doesn’t get “puff” on max

I also thought of making the FW1A into an FW3A, with a copper pill below the MCPCB, instead of the configuration 1 led + reflector. It would have more mass to absorb heat from a triple :smiling_imp:

[bmengineer]

@MascaratumB

I also thought of making the FW1A into an FW3A, with a copper pill below the MCPCB, instead of the configuration 1 led + reflector. It would have more mass to absorb heat from a triple :smiling_imp:

More mass sure, but also a much worse thermal path. I don’t really think that’s a great idea.

[MascaratumB]

@bmengineer

@MascaratumB

I also thought of making the FW1A into an FW3A, with a copper pill below the MCPCB, instead of the configuration 1 led + reflector. It would have more mass to absorb heat from a triple :smiling_imp:

More mass sure, but also a much worse thermal path. I don’t really think that’s a great idea.

Ahah, I would squeeze a copper/brass rod in the head to “make contact” :smiling_imp:
Although they are a different flashlights, I’ve done it with Jaxman E3, Sofirn SP32 and OTR M1 (all turned into triples), and the heating path is not bad. Maybe not perfect, but not bad too!
But I do get your point :+1:

[bmengineer]

@MascaratumB

@bmengineer

@MascaratumB

I also thought of making the FW1A into an FW3A, with a copper pill below the MCPCB, instead of the configuration 1 led + reflector. It would have more mass to absorb heat from a triple :smiling_imp:

More mass sure, but also a much worse thermal path. I don’t really think that’s a great idea.

Ahah, I would squeeze a copper/brass rod in the head to “make contact” :smiling_imp:
Although they are a different flashlights, I’ve done it with Jaxman E3, Sofirn SP32 and OTR M1 (all turned into triples), and the heating path is not bad. Maybe not perfect, but not bad too!
But I do get your point :+1:

I’d imagine the copper heatsink on the FW3TC does a better job, and the FW3C almost definitely does.

[gusto]

@Tally-ho

Fritz Works…really ? When the 2 most important aspects of Fritz’ design were dropped early. :person_facepalming:
I’m disappointed to see that Lumintop and Neal are continuing to make further declinaisons/changes to the FW3A without consideration for people who signed for THIS

He said it’s definitely nicer and he likes the design

[contactcr]

people have been using spacers forever and the thermal transfer is very good, even with spacers that only contact on the bottom and not the sides.