If you don’t want to wait forever for ’em, any US-based company (the usual suspects, someone’ll chime in) will get ’em to you fast.
It’s not that much of a high-stress light, so especially if you get a set of 4, you can go for capacity (3400mAH or so) over high-drain.
My go-to charger is an Opus 3100, checks cells nicely.
Hi djozz, thanks for the replies!
Sounds like trouble. If I find a way to secure the magnets so they cannot shift, are there any other issues I should consider, such as electrical resistance of the magnets, etc.? Or is there a generally accepted “better way” to install buttons on the top of flat-top batteries? Or are the best batteries for this light readily available as button-tops?
I find it hard to believe any promises made by sellers of China-made products these days. Having said this, the seller claims to be in the USA, and the description makes a serious effort to boast about their protection technology, and they are offering an 18-month warranty … so I would guess that they probably do offer built-in protection in this light.
So you’re saying that if this light is not engineered to handle the current available from high-drain batteries it might “melt down” or “explode” or self-destruct in some other way? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
By safely, he means if components would just burn and stop working.
In regards to Chinese made lights, I’d be proud to say you can have confidence in what we recommend, so you don’t have to worry.
I’ll probably do this if/when someone chimes in. But I’ve read so much about counterfeit batteries that I wouldn’t know where to turn without some sound advice.
I’ll definitely be buying a set of 4. What should I expect to pay for genuine 3400mAH cells these days? Any idea?
I’ll look into this recommendation now, thanks Lightbringer.
Someone just posted a list recently in a different thread. Liionwarehouse, IMRbatteries, MTN, 18650something, etc.
“Counterfeit” can be decent if the cells are in fact decent. Crap cells are those that are pulled from ancient laptop batteries and rewrapped as “new”. I got “genuine Liitokala” cells for <3bux a pop, knowing full well they were LiShen or equivalent. And they all clocked in at close to their rated capacity. Close enough, I still gave them 4 stars for trying. For the price, though, they were okay.
Prime cells, expect to pay maybe 4-5bux each. I got 30Qs from Fasttech without issue. Still using ’em in my Q8 (BTs) and in other lights (FTs).
The US-based companies that’ll be mentioned will pretty much guarantee legit cells.
30Qs:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1420/10002357/6691702-authentic-samsung-inr-18650-30q-3-6v-3000mah
Thanks Lightbringer, I just bought the set of 4 via the link you posted. Appreciate your help!
No worries.
Yeah, but I really don’t want to waste money or time experimenting with off-brand cells that may or may not be a bargain.
So maybe this Liitokala brand is one that’s worth trying some day?
On AX, if you look up the cheapest “LK” cells for 2-3bux a pop, they’ll undoubtedly be a rewrap of new cells. LK doesn’t make cells any more than Thorfire or Sofirn or other purveyor of rebranded cells. Test them immediately on receipt, and make sure they’re at least within 10% of the rated capacity. A lousy rating would make the vendor wail and gnash his teeth, so if you grex about it, you could almost always get a good chunk of change back, if not a complete refund. Pictures, pictures, pictures…
They ain’t LK, that’s for sure. It’s a buzzword like an “Ultrafíre” light. Sounds famous, so that’s how they brand it.
Not exactly…
Those are the counterfeits/fakes, trying to be passed off as 30Qs, HG2s, etc.
The ones I got were in the typische green panny-B livery, no claims to any “brand” other’n “LK”. Paid something like 2something each, so I knew they weren’t the aforementioned. They all clocked in almost to-spec, so no sand-filled 10440s or anything.
Like I said, probably rewrapped Lishen cells, new, commodity cells, decent enough for low-stress lights.
i would not try the magnets as button-top simulators, especially in a multi cell light.
i would either try them as is, or solder a little blob on the top, quickly
it looks like unprotected would be ok, usually it is, for flashlights
they seem to be in parallel where you could use 1, 2, 3 or 4 cells at once.
that probably will not affect brightness, but run time would change.
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Today marks 8 days since I placed my order for this set of four 30Q batteries. Little did I know that China was going to start celebrating their National Day on the same weekend I placed my order. In fact, before I ordered it never even occurred to me to check to see where this fasttech.com company is located. I just assumed that it’s in the USA. Nope. It’s in Hong Kong!
So while waiting for the batteries (which might get here in another week or three) I received the flashlight, and it’s built like a tank! It feel like I could drive my truck over it and it wouldn’t be hurt in the least. So if it actually functions like it should, it will probably last me forever.
Yeah, I got a set of 30Qs that’s expected to ship tomorrow. They’re all hootin’ and hollerin’ and having fun, and only when it’s all over does the world start to spin again.
And yeah, it’s a pretty beefy light, no complaints here except for the UI.
Nice to know that this light is provided to us through: Quincy Technology Inc. Brighton CO USA.
Telling us: we have a joint-venture for manufacture in Shenzhen, China. That’s about all I could find.
In fact, that is even less than that other company. I think they call themselves Canada based.
Who apparently operated for years from an address in a residential area.
But now have facilities in other countries. Like soon to be opened in Berlin Germany. Under the balcony.
Well that’s more info than I could find about Teslacom. Though their add on Amazon screems: re-flow me
I was all excited when I got a huge 50% off Vipon deal on my first 18650 flashlight, and I knew I would want to use it ASAP when it arrived. So I ordered 4 batteries immediately, then I ordered a charger a week later. The flashlight arrived first, then the charger, but the batteries never shipped — so now I’m stuck waiting for batteries before I can use the flashlight or charger!
After waiting 5 days with no shipment confirmation from FastTech I created a ticket to ask them why my order still had not shipped. They ignored this ticket for another 6 days …
I finally lost my patience this morning because they have been so pathetically slow and unresponsive. It’s been 11 days since I paid but they still haven’t shipped, and I have received no evidence or communication to suggest that they might ship any time soon. Instead I discovered this notice on their website this morning:
They sure talk a good story on their website, boasting about how fast and responsive and professional they are, yet their real-world performance tells a much different story … at least in my case.
So I cancelled my FastTech order this morning (we shall see if they ever return my payment) and I placed a new order for a set of four 30Q batteries on eBay from ‘genele3’, a USA seller with a reputation for fast shipping:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192967336455
Unfortunately after this disappointing experience I cannot recommend FastTech, nor will I be buying anything from them in the future. They may be a great battery supplier for some of you, but not for me.
In my opinion FastTech should have placed a PROMINENT notice on their website at least one week before the start of their National Holiday, alerting everyone that they would be temporarily “out of business” for this holiday and therefore unable to ship any new orders during the first two weeks of October. But they did not do this, and the result is that I wasted 11 days waiting for nothing.
I guess youll find out, potentially the hard way.
Most of the cheaply built clones use even cheaper components than the originals, typically use counterfeit/fake emitters, and blatantly lie about specs.
Personally I prefer to opt for something a bit more proven when im handling/storing a glorified pipebomb. Plenty of house fires and injuries caused by faulty, poorly made, and poorly handled lithium cells/electronics.
Wellp, that’s pretty much normal for any supplier in China. Their holidays are week-long, country-wide, and pretty much the whole world is supposed to know that.
They’re basically a drop-shipper, as they don’t have a FT warehouse here or there or anywhere, which is why you can get everything from plant-seeds to vape equipment to unmentionables. That’s also why there are so many issues with things being listed as “in stock” or “ready to ship” and then it takes 2wks for it to actually be shipped. What they’re told by the actual supplier is what they put in the listing. If the supplier lies or is clueless, then the info’s wrong. “It is what it is.”
My cells already shipped, I saw the pic of the actual package, etc., so they’re on the way.
Anyway, the point is, they ain’t Amazon. That’s why you can get things dirt-cheap halfway across the planet with free or at least close-to-free shipping, but you wait, and you take your chances. And I played the same game, “ETA 2 days”, then 2 days later, “ETA 4 days”, then 4 days later, “ETA 1 day”, etc., but they do eventually ship.
Btw, just because a cell clocks in at 3000mAh doesn’t mean it’s a 30Q, even if it’s in a pink wrapper. I got those cheepcheepcheep “LK”s that clocked in pretty close to that, but they ain’t high-drain.
Take close-up pix of the cells and send ’em to Barkuti. He’ll let you know if they’re legit. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I know, I buy lots of small stuff from China but usually I don’t mind waiting. This time I minded.
This is something else I did not know, along with the fact that they are a Hong Kong outfit.
Normally I buy from China suppliers on eBay, and if I fail to get a shipment confirmation in a day or two I cancel. This time I believed their claim that delivery should be on the 10th. Hah! My fault again for trusting what it said on my checkout page.
I ordered on September 29. You ordered after me, didn’t you? If so, I think they may have just screwed up my order. Or maybe they set is aside for a few days to punish me for creating a ticket asking them when they would ship!?
Will do, thanks Lightbringer.