Sofirn C01R deep red [sold out, discontinued]

Please add another one (two total) for me.

Thank you,

John.

Thanks a lot for this overview. Unfortunately, Sofirn seems to be unable to source LEDs from other suppliers like Digikey, Cutter, Arrow or Mouser. They also told me that Nichia LEDs are hard to get. They have now applied for their supplier's MOQ of 1000 pcs of XP-E2 deep red. I told them this is a very nice LED for more than just the C01R (e.g. suitable for a Wurkkos WK30 update or for using it as auxiliary LED in addition to a powerful white beam flashlight like Nitecore P18). Moreover, I do have faith in people's growing interest once we get to see some first pictures of the C01R's beam. :-)

Since high currents do not apply to the C01R I am not so worried about 1 or 2 lumens less than XP-G3 deep red. With its small die size under the C01S optic I expect the XP-E2 deep red to put out a nice, useful but not too intense hotspot of red light.

By the way, we are now at 94.5% fulfillment rate to reach Sofirn's MPQ. :-)

Interested in one.

I do not agree. 660nm is so invisible to the human eye that you really must adore that colour to justify spending so much energy to get the illumination at an acceptable level. So for aux leds and additional illumination they are a bit obscure in my opinion.

Edit: I have used 645nm 0603 leds as aux leds that look as good as the same tint of red as 660nm while producing light twice as efficient.

Au contraire, with all due respect. ;-) In my opinion deep red is most appropriate for lowlight scenarios where someone needs close-range illumination without causing too much attention (= without being seen). For instance, this could be very useful for reading a map in full darkness without giving up the human eye's adaptation to darkness. It could also make sense for having light in your tent while camping without attracting insects (that are less or even not able to perceive this wavelength).

Policemen or soldiers may appreciate the fact that 660nm is less perceptible by someone standing nearby. So, with regard to a tactical flashlight that Sofirn may want to develop, an auxiliary red light with deep red tint might be the right thing. It's not about high lumens here. Most red (auxiliary) lights are way too bright to be useful without giving up night vision capability, e.g. Wurkkos WK30 or Nitecore P18. A sublumen or low-lumen red light would be much more reasonable.

After all, I think we can agree to disagree. But maybe we only have two different perspectives how useful deep red light can be. :-)

I wrote down the argumentation because there is a common belief that deeper red is better no matter what (some people even want 720nm what we almost do not see at all), while in fact there is a strong trade-off in visibility. Any good reason to precisely want 660nm over 625nm despite the lower visibilty is ok to me though. :+1:

Two please.

The deep red (660 nm) light would be far more useful to me. So if Sofirn produces these, then then I would like two more (for a total of 4). If only the 625 nm orange-red light is produced, then I will purchase only two. Thanks!

Lux-Perpetua, thanks for project-managing this for us! You are the man!

I would not be surprised if the 645nm and 660nm emitters you saw were actually the same wavelength, reported two different ways.

Some manufacturers or retailers list the peak wavelength, which is where the maximum output occurs on an optical power basis.

Others list the dominant wavelength, which is where the maximum flux occur on a luminus basis - it is adjusted based on perceived brightness according to the luminosity function.

It appears a peak wavelength of 660nm from a monochromatic LED works out to a dominant wavelength of about 645nm.

On the other hand, I am skeptical I could tell a 660nm peak LED from a 645nm peak LED.

Oddly enough, Creeā€™s XP-E2 datasheet lists dominant wavelength for the red, but peak wavelength for the photo red. So the two are slightly closer in practical terms than the stated wavelengths indicate - the red has a stated dominant wavelength of 625nm, but from the spectral graph, the peak appears to be about 635nm.

The XP-G3 datasheet, in contrast, lists both peak and dominant together for the photo red.

How did I miss this?? Iā€™m in for two of any red color but prefer one 625 and one 660 to compareā€¦ if there is still time!

LOL. :partying_face:

In the brief time Iā€™ve been here, Iā€™ve found that itā€™s difficult to keep up with all the deals. :person_facepalming:

Add one more for me - total of 3

Please add another XP-E2 625nm to my name. Thanks

Thank you for showing so much interest. We are at 99%! :partying_face: :sunglasses:

I really hope that there would be a deep red version tooā€¦ Then I might have another friend who will take one. Fingers crossed!

Iā€™m already one the list. Iā€™ll take two more if deep red will be confirmed.

That makes three C01R for you if I counted correctly. The odds are quite good that we get to see the deep red tint as Sofirn applied for a MOQ of 1.000 pcs XP-E2 deep red 660nm. Since Sofirn is quite busy now and there is no information when those XP-E2 deep red will arrive in their factory, we need to wait for an update from them.

Interessted, would like two if no deep red led is available, three if there is a deep red option

This is excellent news :+1:

And you passed 100%.

Awesomeā€¦ Then I will definitely take 2!