Emisar D1sV2 respectively Noctigon K1

[adam7027]

@Hank Wang

@JordanZHP

Hank if you see this thread we would love an update on this project

Yes, we are still working on it, here is the prototype photo, it’s not called D1SV2, it’s called Noctigon K1,
with fully regulated driver, it should reach 600+kcd with CSLNM1.TG LED, there will be green/red
beam version, as well as XP-L HI/HD LED with different color temperature.

This is lovely !

@F.i.l.a.s

Hank, could you add an SST20 95CRI (3000k or 3500k or 4000k) as stock light option? A lot of people is interested in this version, as I am. Big reflecter and regulated driver makes all sence for this Hi CRI throwy led.

+1

@P33

@Hank Wang

@Pavlo

Hank, what kind of regulated driver?

There are actually two versions.
One is the 5A Linear regularted driver for the Osram, SST-20, XP-L LED.
The other is the boost 2A/12V driver which is for the XHP35 LED.

I’m hoping for XHP35 HI CRI version then :sunglasses:

@Ryzbor

I’d love a 3000K XHP-35HI version.

@SKV89

XHP35 3000K or 2700K hi cri for penetrating the fog would be great

@Pavlo

@zak.wilson

I’m a little sad this isn’t buck/boost or at least buck. I actually find myself contemplating XHP35 over SST-20 now.

If the Osram/SST20 version was buck / boost, I would have had a hard time deciding which to get.
Based on the two options, the decision is easy for me, XHP35 all the way.

I hope Hank offers the XHP35 version with warm white 80 and 90 CRI options.
As others have mentioned, warm white penetrates fog so much better. I also find it adds contrast and definition.

Looking forward to see the numbers on throw and lumens. I suspect the XHP35 will be about twice as bright (lumens) as the 3V version, with similar throw.

For 2700K, the SST-20 version could be the best bet, as it has deeper reds, than XHP35 HI (I would still take a 2700K XHP35 HI 90CRI, if it were offered).

For 3500K and 4000K, SST-20 has again strikingly good tint. I have SST-20 3500K and 4000K in Convoy C8 at 3.5A, and the tints I got for these CCT are definitely greenish/yellowish, when driven at low currents, but at 3.5A and above, even these can improve a lot, and they can be feel as almost spot on BBL with reflectors (with TIR, the situation would not be near this good).

If there could be a buck driver for the 3V LEDs instead of a linear driver, then these variants could have noticeably better runtimes on the highest setting, before temperature regulation starts to kick in. It is another question, that maybe a good buck driver around 4.5-5A could be more expensive - personally, I could justify 7-10 extra $ per unit, if I could buy these with a buck driver.

Regarding only efficiency (as of current driver options), I would also vote for the XHP35 HI variants (one 3500K 90CRI and one 4500K 90CRI for sure) - if I take throw/heat ratio, the SST-20 should win, but I guess, not with a linear driver.

[Yokiamy]

Personally i dont like SST20, i prefer tge XHP35 variant.
And ofcourse the Osram for a laser beam

[maukka]

And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

[SKV89]

Maukka, has anyone tested that variant? What is the DUV?

[Klayking]

Yes, that’s the XHP35 HI I think most people would like to see. Fantastic tint.

[Pavlo]

I have it in my Zebralight sc600w Hi and it is indeed really good!

[contactcr]

@SKV89

Maukka, has anyone tested that variant? What is the DUV?

WildTrail (former LuckSun) BLF-D80v2 - post your mod!

XHP35 HI 4500K 80CRI w/ MTN-BST3 driver (12V ~2.3A) Grinded out a small part of driver cavity with dremel to fit boost inductor Bypassed tail spring, driver spring is a BeCu spring so I left that as is Not sure how much 80CRI bin is costing me in output/throw but some quick measures looks like 1,726lm and 85.2kcd (using HS1010A meter) so maybe 15-20% less than a 70CRI would? [image] [image] Indoor beam shot, focus seems good with the spare XP ring included: [image]

Low to High:

Ambient = 1065.7 Lux, CCT = 4199K (Duv 0.0026)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 80.0 [ R9 = 13.0 ]
R1 = 78.9 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 86.5 R4 = 81.4 R5 = 79.3 R6 = 77.3 R7 = 85.2
R8 = 68.9 R9 = 13.0 R10 = 60.6 R11 = 81.6 R12 = 61.7 R13 = 78.5 R14 = 92.6

Ambient = 6972.3 Lux, CCT = 4429K (Duv 0.0048)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.5 [ R9 = 3.9 ]
R1 = 76.4 R2 = 81.1 R3 = 86.3 R4 = 79.8 R5 = 77.2 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 84.9
R8 = 66.6 R9 = 3.9 R10 = 57.5 R11 = 79.3 R12 = 58.7 R13 = 76.3 R14 = 92.7

Ambient = 36717.2 Lux, CCT = 4390K (Duv 0.0051)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.4 [ R9 = 1.8 ]
R1 = 76.0 R2 = 81.3 R3 = 86.9 R4 = 79.5 R5 = 76.7 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 85.3
R8 = 65.7 R9 = 1.8 R10 = 57.8 R11 = 78.4 R12 = 57.7 R13 = 76.0 R14 = 93.1

Ambient = 98188.8 Lux, CCT = 4684K (Duv 0.0025)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.8 [ R9 = 0.7 ]
R1 = 76.3 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 87.8 R4 = 79.0 R5 = 77.0 R6 = 76.2 R7 = 85.7
R8 = 65.6 R9 = 0.7 R10 = 59.6 R11 = 76.7 R12 = 57.6 R13 = 76.8 R14 = 93.8

In addition, it’s super hard to get a reading because there’s a slight tinge of yellow in the hot spot and I guess my hand is not steady enough to not have “inconsistent reading” like 3/4 of the time.

[SKV89]

Thanks for the info! With such a high duv, it’s going to look too yellowish eventhough I like 4500K. I wish there was an A or D tint XHP35 HI 80CRI.

@contactcr

@SKV89

Maukka, has anyone tested that variant? What is the DUV?

WildTrail (former LuckSun) BLF-D80v2 - post your mod! - #9 by contactcr

Low to High:

Ambient = 1065.7 Lux, CCT = 4199K (Duv 0.0026)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 80.0 [ R9 = 13.0 ]
R1 = 78.9 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 86.5 R4 = 81.4 R5 = 79.3 R6 = 77.3 R7 = 85.2
R8 = 68.9 R9 = 13.0 R10 = 60.6 R11 = 81.6 R12 = 61.7 R13 = 78.5 R14 = 92.6

Ambient = 6972.3 Lux, CCT = 4429K (Duv 0.0048)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.5 [ R9 = 3.9 ]
R1 = 76.4 R2 = 81.1 R3 = 86.3 R4 = 79.8 R5 = 77.2 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 84.9
R8 = 66.6 R9 = 3.9 R10 = 57.5 R11 = 79.3 R12 = 58.7 R13 = 76.3 R14 = 92.7

Ambient = 36717.2 Lux, CCT = 4390K (Duv 0.0051)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.4 [ R9 = 1.8 ]
R1 = 76.0 R2 = 81.3 R3 = 86.9 R4 = 79.5 R5 = 76.7 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 85.3
R8 = 65.7 R9 = 1.8 R10 = 57.8 R11 = 78.4 R12 = 57.7 R13 = 76.0 R14 = 93.1

Ambient = 98188.8 Lux, CCT = 4684K (Duv 0.0025)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.8 [ R9 = 0.7 ]
R1 = 76.3 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 87.8 R4 = 79.0 R5 = 77.0 R6 = 76.2 R7 = 85.7
R8 = 65.6 R9 = 0.7 R10 = 59.6 R11 = 76.7 R12 = 57.6 R13 = 76.8 R14 = 93.8

In addition, it’s super hard to get a reading because there’s a slight tinge of yellow in the hot spot and I guess my hand is not steady enough to not have “inconsistent reading” like 3/4 of the time.

[Yokiamy]

@maukka

And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

That would be SWEET !

[JordanZHP]

@maukka

And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

Great tint for a thrower and decent CRI, nice!

What are the max lumens for this led? Do you think it would still throw fairly well?

[Hank_Wang]

@maukka

And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

Surely we will offer this option is this LED can be sourced.

[SKV89]

Hank, if you can source any A or D tint XHP35 HI 80CRI, that would be awesome. If you offer it with the good bins, I’m sure many people will buy multiple emitter versions of this light.

[zak.wilson (Zak)]

The 45E is very nice, though for throwers, a little warmer is more to my liking, e.g. 40E. I have that one in an Acebeam L16.

[justanotherguy]

@Hank Wang

@JordanZHP

Hank if you see this thread we would love an update on this project

Yes, we are still working on it, here is the prototype photo, it’s not called D1SV2, it’s called Noctigon K1,
with fully regulated driver, it should reach 600+kcd with CSLNM1.TG LED, there will be green/red
beam version, as well as XP-L HI/HD LED with different color temperature.

Hank
How this this compare size wise to a GT mini?

[CarpentryHero]

That’s exciting for such a small package

[maukka]

@zak.wilson

The 45E is very nice, though for throwers, a little warmer is more to my liking, e.g. 40E. I have that one in an Acebeam L16.

I wouldn’t mind this one either even though it’s a lower flux bin. Both are nice.

[Th558]

@justanotherguy

How this this compare size wise to a GT mini?

Head is 70mm. Dunno the length but I’m expecting around 16-17cm.

[justanotherguy]

@Th558

@justanotherguy

How this this compare size wise to a GT mini?

Head is 70mm. Dunno the length but I’m expecting around 16-17cm.

hmmm
A fair bit bigger than the GT mini…
Still pretty small… bigger reflector, more lumens and kcd than even my Vin’d GT mini… I’m excited…
This will out punch my Varapower turbo 2.0!

[withoutink]

this is exciting, I am falling in love with the emisar d4sv2 I picked up recently… a super throwy one would be amazing.

[SKV89]

@maukka

@zak.wilson

The 45E is very nice, though for throwers, a little warmer is more to my liking, e.g. 40E. I have that one in an Acebeam L16.

I wouldn’t mind this one either even though it’s a lower flux bin. Both are nice.

I wouldn’t mind a lower flux bin too but hope the tint is below the BBL. That’s what made the D1S and the GT Mini so nice because of the beautiful A or D tints. Also the Mateminco MT35 / Astrolux MF02 with the XHP35HI has one of the most beautiful thrower tints I’ve ever seen. The XHP35 HI in that light on turbo measures:

CCT: 4378K
DUV: –0.0025
Ra (CRI): 72.5
R9: –22.1
Rf: 70
Rg: 95

I don’t own the GT but I seen pics of it and the tint should be about the same. Any idea where to get these rosy tinted XHP35HI?

Edit: I just measured my MT09R modded by TA with w/ (1) 80cri C4 bin 4500k & (2) 80cri C2 bin 4000k
CCT: 4829K
DUV: –0.0003
Ra (CRI): 80.5
R9: 5.1
Rf: 79
Rg: 97

I’m thinking TA might have put in a 5000K in stead of the 4000K but who knows maybe the reflector increased the color temp. The tint is in this mixed tint light is pretty much exactly on the BBL, which is nice but I like the warmer and rosier tint in the MF02 better.