Emisar D1sV2 respectively Noctigon K1

[contactcr]

@SKV89

Maukka, has anyone tested that variant? What is the DUV?

WildTrail (former LuckSun) BLF-D80v2 - post your mod!

XHP35 HI 4500K 80CRI w/ MTN-BST3 driver (12V ~2.3A) Grinded out a small part of driver cavity with dremel to fit boost inductor Bypassed tail spring, driver spring is a BeCu spring so I left that as is Not sure how much 80CRI bin is costing me in output/throw but some quick measures looks like 1,726lm and 85.2kcd (using HS1010A meter) so maybe 15-20% less than a 70CRI would? [image] [image] Indoor beam shot, focus seems good with the spare XP ring included: [image]

Low to High:

Ambient = 1065.7 Lux, CCT = 4199K (Duv 0.0026)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 80.0 [ R9 = 13.0 ]
R1 = 78.9 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 86.5 R4 = 81.4 R5 = 79.3 R6 = 77.3 R7 = 85.2
R8 = 68.9 R9 = 13.0 R10 = 60.6 R11 = 81.6 R12 = 61.7 R13 = 78.5 R14 = 92.6

Ambient = 6972.3 Lux, CCT = 4429K (Duv 0.0048)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.5 [ R9 = 3.9 ]
R1 = 76.4 R2 = 81.1 R3 = 86.3 R4 = 79.8 R5 = 77.2 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 84.9
R8 = 66.6 R9 = 3.9 R10 = 57.5 R11 = 79.3 R12 = 58.7 R13 = 76.3 R14 = 92.7

Ambient = 36717.2 Lux, CCT = 4390K (Duv 0.0051)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.4 [ R9 = 1.8 ]
R1 = 76.0 R2 = 81.3 R3 = 86.9 R4 = 79.5 R5 = 76.7 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 85.3
R8 = 65.7 R9 = 1.8 R10 = 57.8 R11 = 78.4 R12 = 57.7 R13 = 76.0 R14 = 93.1

Ambient = 98188.8 Lux, CCT = 4684K (Duv 0.0025)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.8 [ R9 = 0.7 ]
R1 = 76.3 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 87.8 R4 = 79.0 R5 = 77.0 R6 = 76.2 R7 = 85.7
R8 = 65.6 R9 = 0.7 R10 = 59.6 R11 = 76.7 R12 = 57.6 R13 = 76.8 R14 = 93.8

In addition, it’s super hard to get a reading because there’s a slight tinge of yellow in the hot spot and I guess my hand is not steady enough to not have “inconsistent reading” like 3/4 of the time.

[SKV89]

Thanks for the info! With such a high duv, it’s going to look too yellowish eventhough I like 4500K. I wish there was an A or D tint XHP35 HI 80CRI.

@contactcr

@SKV89

Maukka, has anyone tested that variant? What is the DUV?

WildTrail (former LuckSun) BLF-D80v2 - post your mod! - #9 by contactcr

Low to High:

Ambient = 1065.7 Lux, CCT = 4199K (Duv 0.0026)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 80.0 [ R9 = 13.0 ]
R1 = 78.9 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 86.5 R4 = 81.4 R5 = 79.3 R6 = 77.3 R7 = 85.2
R8 = 68.9 R9 = 13.0 R10 = 60.6 R11 = 81.6 R12 = 61.7 R13 = 78.5 R14 = 92.6

Ambient = 6972.3 Lux, CCT = 4429K (Duv 0.0048)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.5 [ R9 = 3.9 ]
R1 = 76.4 R2 = 81.1 R3 = 86.3 R4 = 79.8 R5 = 77.2 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 84.9
R8 = 66.6 R9 = 3.9 R10 = 57.5 R11 = 79.3 R12 = 58.7 R13 = 76.3 R14 = 92.7

Ambient = 36717.2 Lux, CCT = 4390K (Duv 0.0051)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.4 [ R9 = 1.8 ]
R1 = 76.0 R2 = 81.3 R3 = 86.9 R4 = 79.5 R5 = 76.7 R6 = 75.4 R7 = 85.3
R8 = 65.7 R9 = 1.8 R10 = 57.8 R11 = 78.4 R12 = 57.7 R13 = 76.0 R14 = 93.1

Ambient = 98188.8 Lux, CCT = 4684K (Duv 0.0025)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 78.8 [ R9 = 0.7 ]
R1 = 76.3 R2 = 82.6 R3 = 87.8 R4 = 79.0 R5 = 77.0 R6 = 76.2 R7 = 85.7
R8 = 65.6 R9 = 0.7 R10 = 59.6 R11 = 76.7 R12 = 57.6 R13 = 76.8 R14 = 93.8

In addition, it’s super hard to get a reading because there’s a slight tinge of yellow in the hot spot and I guess my hand is not steady enough to not have “inconsistent reading” like 3/4 of the time.

[Yokiamy]

@maukka

And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

That would be SWEET !

[JordanZHP]

@maukka

And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

Great tint for a thrower and decent CRI, nice!

What are the max lumens for this led? Do you think it would still throw fairly well?

[Hank_Wang]

@maukka

And please make the crowd favorite, XHP35 HI 4500K CRI80 (XHP35A-H0-0000-0D0HC445E), an option.

Surely we will offer this option is this LED can be sourced.

[SKV89]

Hank, if you can source any A or D tint XHP35 HI 80CRI, that would be awesome. If you offer it with the good bins, I’m sure many people will buy multiple emitter versions of this light.

[zak.wilson (Zak)]

The 45E is very nice, though for throwers, a little warmer is more to my liking, e.g. 40E. I have that one in an Acebeam L16.

[justanotherguy]

@Hank Wang

@JordanZHP

Hank if you see this thread we would love an update on this project

Yes, we are still working on it, here is the prototype photo, it’s not called D1SV2, it’s called Noctigon K1,
with fully regulated driver, it should reach 600+kcd with CSLNM1.TG LED, there will be green/red
beam version, as well as XP-L HI/HD LED with different color temperature.

Hank
How this this compare size wise to a GT mini?

[CarpentryHero]

That’s exciting for such a small package

[maukka]

@zak.wilson

The 45E is very nice, though for throwers, a little warmer is more to my liking, e.g. 40E. I have that one in an Acebeam L16.

I wouldn’t mind this one either even though it’s a lower flux bin. Both are nice.

[Th558]

@justanotherguy

How this this compare size wise to a GT mini?

Head is 70mm. Dunno the length but I’m expecting around 16-17cm.

[justanotherguy]

@Th558

@justanotherguy

How this this compare size wise to a GT mini?

Head is 70mm. Dunno the length but I’m expecting around 16-17cm.

hmmm
A fair bit bigger than the GT mini…
Still pretty small… bigger reflector, more lumens and kcd than even my Vin’d GT mini… I’m excited…
This will out punch my Varapower turbo 2.0!

[withoutink]

this is exciting, I am falling in love with the emisar d4sv2 I picked up recently… a super throwy one would be amazing.

[SKV89]

@maukka

@zak.wilson

The 45E is very nice, though for throwers, a little warmer is more to my liking, e.g. 40E. I have that one in an Acebeam L16.

I wouldn’t mind this one either even though it’s a lower flux bin. Both are nice.

I wouldn’t mind a lower flux bin too but hope the tint is below the BBL. That’s what made the D1S and the GT Mini so nice because of the beautiful A or D tints. Also the Mateminco MT35 / Astrolux MF02 with the XHP35HI has one of the most beautiful thrower tints I’ve ever seen. The XHP35 HI in that light on turbo measures:

CCT: 4378K
DUV: –0.0025
Ra (CRI): 72.5
R9: –22.1
Rf: 70
Rg: 95

I don’t own the GT but I seen pics of it and the tint should be about the same. Any idea where to get these rosy tinted XHP35HI?

Edit: I just measured my MT09R modded by TA with w/ (1) 80cri C4 bin 4500k & (2) 80cri C2 bin 4000k
CCT: 4829K
DUV: –0.0003
Ra (CRI): 80.5
R9: 5.1
Rf: 79
Rg: 97

I’m thinking TA might have put in a 5000K in stead of the 4000K but who knows maybe the reflector increased the color temp. The tint is in this mixed tint light is pretty much exactly on the BBL, which is nice but I like the warmer and rosier tint in the MF02 better.

[zak.wilson (Zak)]

The 45E and 40E emitters I’ve used have been quite neutral visually - pretty much on the blackbody line by my estimation.

[joechina]

@Hank Wang

@JordanZHP

Hank if you see this thread we would love an update on this project

Yes, we are still working on it, here is the prototype photo, it’s not called D1SV2, it’s called Noctigon K1,
with fully regulated driver, it should reach 600+kcd with CSLNM1.TG LED, there will be green/red
beam version, as well as XP-L HI/HD LED with different color temperature.

That looks nice!

I wounder why it has not Emisar in its name.

[Majoroverkill]

WOW! What a great looking flashlight. Will there be a 5700K tint? Most people like the warner tints and not sure why. Maybe its my eyes but anything below 5000K looks dull like my X7 Marauder I got last year and it’s been sitting in the safe since then. 6500K is to high and just to much glare. 5700k is perfect in my opinion. Maybe the 25+ years of welding has taken its tole on my old viewers. I accidently ordered a D4S V2 in 5000K last week, Thank you Hank! Hope it’s not like my D4 where everything has a yellow tint to it. I gave away my Imalent DN35 and DN70 flashlights because they had that same dull yellowish tint. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[BurningPlayd0h]

@joechina

That looks nice!

I wounder why it has not Emisar in its name.

Emisar brand is for direct-drive, Noctigon is for regulated/boost/CC

[zak.wilson (Zak)]

@Majoroverkill

Most people like the warner tints and not sure why.

I think most people tend to like about 4000K-5000K, which overlaps with the color temperature of direct sunlight for most of the day. Sometimes it’s lower at sunset, and in summer or in the tropics at midday, it can be a little higher. It’s mostly subjective preference.

For a thrower like this, there’s an objective reason to go warmer: backscatter. Warmer tints produce less visible backscatter, so you see more of what you’re illuminating and less of the beam.

[Majoroverkill]

I have to agree with you and eat lots of words lol My brand new Acebeam X45 came with the XHP70.2 P2 6500k emitters and it just ignites every particle in the air causing a white out affect if its not a clear clean night. I have to hold the flashlight above my head, those 18000 lumens are blinding.