But usually market conditions and demand will determine a selling price.
I hope I am wrong, but IMHO, with the quality and exclusive nature of our BLF LT1 lantern, I am afraid the selling price after our codes are used up will settle down into a higher $75-$100 range.
- Seems like no matter how much we try to do, there will be the same few who will repetitively complain, whine and have mostly negative replies to projects created by “volunteers” on BLF, out of our free time. I sen this not only here in the LT1 project thread, but other BLF projects too in the past. Added it seems the ones doing the whining are those who never contribute anything positive, but all they do is take low-blow jabs at the projects, project teams, and manufacturers. It does get discouraging for those who take to time & effort to try to design something for others in the community and abroad, but we always seem to have to endure the negative “jabs” and slaps-in-the-face from the complainers and whiners who will never be satisfied at no matter what others try to do to help. 
Waiting patiently for my code…
DBSAR has a point…
I follow this forum frequently and always snoop around for great buys or fascinating projects.
I really enjoy learning about LED’s, drivers and user interfaces/flashing.
To me the miracle of this hobby isn’t that I get another light that I will use like my life depended on it or is much different (in utility) from the $4 store lights…it’s dark, I need to see in the dark, I grab a flashlight and turn it on so I can see, I turn it off and set it aside until the next time I need to look in the closet or walk around at night…pretty simple utility.
I am overjoyed at the enthusiasm over builds, tints, reflectors, batteries, user interfaces and flashing Anduril on to a chip with a smartphone…how cool is that??
The appeal for me is how much such a simple device can be modded, tweaked and programmed to way more than a $4 store light—its not their “product” (absence of darkness) I enjoy so much but their “production”.
I’m a computer geek and I find all that borax to be a fun science lesson.
All the people on here that conceive, build, tweak and program are a knowledgeable bunch and always give me more than just a flashlight.
I understand it is a labor of love for them and I hold them to no timetable or even completion of project.
That this bunch of volunteers can make an idea eventually turn in to something I can buy from Amazon (when ready) and have in my hand in two days is beyond industrious.
I guess they could have not bothered, and I would have been spared craving a light that never came in to existence in the first place.
Peace!
Thanks for all you’ve done DBSAR. (and BLF LT1 team.)
And for everyone else……
When in uncertain,
when in doubt,
run in circles,
scream and shout.
I for one am EXTREMELY grateful for what the LT1 team (and others on the forum) have accomplished.
Those who complain should ask themselves how they contributed.
Stop whining and if you’re not happy: just leave the forum.
Thanks again, DBSAR and team.
Please remember that in a group this large there will inherently be enough unfortunate souls to fill one or more threads with nonsense. You can’t let the tiny minority of screaming d*cks get you down when most people are decent and appreciative. Broken people are VERY loud and that’s perhaps the biggest downside of the Internet.
When given an explanation that Sofirn’s LED supply is on backorder from the manufacturer, the most logical conclusion is that they are lying and are instead trying to stop me from giving them my money right this moment. Obviously, that makes perfect sense and refusing to accept my money is, in fact, a violation of my rights as the center of my own Universe.
Aware that this doesn’t help, but I’m broken, too.
sigh
The fallback position to any critical comment on the LT1 is always, “woe is us, we’re unpaid volunteers, you guys don’t appreciate our efforts, and we’re doing the best we can.” That of course is absurd. I appreciate the effort. I understand the reality of the project. However, I also don’t believe that’s an automatic valid excuse for every easily rectified oversight / mistake. That’s a reasonable explanation if someone starts whining that you didn’t do a DFMEA or didn’t do thermal modelling or FEA on the mechanical design or something. That’s not an automatic reasonable explanation for everything or anything.
If you want to have a pity party I guess you can. I spent many hours working on that horrific manual. “Never contributing anything positive” my eye… Further, I made no attack. I didn’t blame anyone. I made a dispassionate & well reasoned argument as to why it makes no sense to buy a bunch of lanterns now, miss Christmas 2019, and then sit on them for a year. I’m sorry you take it so personally that someone might want to wait for lanterns with bugs worked out instead of buying the early releases, especially when they’re gifts for non-flashlightaholics. There’s just no reason to buy them now with the intent to give them as Christmas gifts in 2020.
You could try giving them as gifts before they might actually get used by the recipients. Sort of a “random act of kindness”.
After seeing how the project was coming along I put my name down for four lanterns, as it is obviously a groundbreaking piece of technmology that is likely to be copied by others in the future, and it seems like a perfect gift for several people that I know. Regarding the option to purchase I never had a specific date in mind, especially as I entered the group buy fairly late. It doesn’t really make much difference whether I give them to people for Christmas, or as birthday presents at a later point.
As the Chinese say - 无所谓 (wu suo wei)!
Maybe it could have been a good idea to move from a “development thread” to a “production and distribution thread”, once the LT1 was ready and the first codes were being send out.
So that the developers can sit back and relax (I remember feeling very satisfied once production of the Q8 started and reports came in that mostly people liked the thing) while the inevitable (as seem proven in the past) chaos of production in batches, buying and then random distribution (in time and order) and then customers who are/feel mistreated, and then finally everyone getting their lights, takes place elsewhere.
Good and bad experiences with the actual light by customers, and found design flaws, can be reported again in the development thread.
But as everone is free on an internet forum to post where one likes, it probably will not prove possible to keep it separated. 
Thanks for this update! An off timer for sunset would really be great 
But you are right. First things first.
It’s highly appreciated, that you put so much work into this platform!
Which attiny is used in the LT1? I guess the larger 8k model, right?
So for notable more space we will have to wait for a future 16 or 32 K version….
just got my code,ordered from amazon. any issues to know about?
Yes
1) It won’t charge from a USB-C charger using a USB-C to USB-C cable. (It will charge from a USB-A charger using a USB-A to USB-C cable.)
2) Flat top or near flat top cells may mechanically interfere with the potentiometer on the bottom of the driver board. (It can be removed from the driver board as it’s unused)
Sure hope I get the code soon as I want to use it when traveling in January. Looking forward to the Lantern.
Ok, cancelled it now. Thanks!
There are no options from which to select.
Onlu credit cards visible Payment Methods and you cannot select/deselect anything from it. 
Lurker here, so how do I get a code for Amazon. Thanks in advance.
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what number are u on the list? They are sending out 30 PMs a day.
1.) It depends on your charger. If your charger works with USB PD it won’t work.
I have a USB C (both ends) charger which does not support PD which works
Have you asked to be placed on the interest list before this? If you are not already on the interested list you cannot be added at this time. In the future, after those on the group buy interested list have been sent GB codes you nmight be able to get a discount.
This is the most confusing GB I’ve seen for any product, and while understanding the scale of the undertaking it comes off as a lack of foresight and planning on the part of Sofirn. It’s been a BIG interest list for quite some time…
I just can’t wrap my head around why it’s been handled the way it is, LT1s for sale on other sites (with a significant discount!) while the first batch of codes had just been sent, wut?