Massive fraud on 18650s in the Littokala Aliexpress stores!

Hmm, “L0J4” on all the cells under the wrap, so acto this

3rd Digit:
A = 2010
B = 2011
C = 2012
D = 2013
E = 2014
F = 2015

4th Digit:
1 = Jan
2 = Feb
3 = Mar
4 = Apr
5 = May
6 = Jun
7 = Jul
8 = Aug
9 = Sep
A = Oct
B = Nov
C = Dec

it’d be April 2019, so not bad at all.

Sigh. Thanks for the warning in the original post. I came across these “30Q” cells in Ali and actually thought, briefly, that they might be a good deal.

Yep. Still really salty that they changed the name and photos.

Getting them to give you a refund with that change back in late 2017 made me auite angry.

I'd like to make a brief comment here. I often see people complaining that this is fraud and blah blah blah. Well, from their perspective what they're doing is 0K, and to some point it is because they're not selling cells under a trademark they don't own, technically their trademark is LiitoKala. On a shadier note they use big brand cell model numbers, and on an even more shady note “they” wrap their cells making 'em look like cells from the big brands. I do not endorse this but it has its reasons, one of them is they're serving a market of uninformed people who may be thinking they're buying the real deal, and also a market of consumers who don't give a flunk. Bad and bad, and to cap it all the lack of information concerning the industrial products they're selling under the wraps. And it's not only LiitoKala, you know.

For now the best you can do is deal with it, spread knowledge and raise the vibration of those who don't know. The big brands don't give (much of) a flunk about this, their stuff is cut and dried.

Chinese cells can be bought with non or a lot less spurious wraps, see for example this Colaier G35 cells advertisement (looks like some sort of high capacity cell from BAK).

That was brief? :laughing:

Wellp, that was brief. I could over-analyze the situation, even start blaming here and there but no point, nothing good would come out. Let's en-lighten people, creating for the better.

People needs to understand the battery market is a lot bigger and more widespread than some may believe. I recently discovered how behemothly sized is PLB's market: Why U.S. Cities Aren’t Using More Electric Buses @ CITYLAB

China has an incredibly big e-bus market.

Helo all
I read few pages where not to buy batteries…Has anyone some shop name from EU or Ali, where I will recieve genuine Panasonic for reasonable price.
I recieved fake from Banggood, fastech, liitokala, varicore,… last “NCR18650B 3400mAh” protected from varicore (ali), was less than 3000mAh, the protection cut off at 2V.
Where to buy???

I’ve been told that these two stores sell genuine batteries. I have an order on the way, so I’ll find out for myself in a few weeks.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1191644?spm=0.8937474.0.0.2cf52e0eIgFK6p

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1382210?spm=0.8937474.0.0.2cf52e0eIgFK6p

In the EU, you could try nkon. I haven’t used them myself, but I’ve heard only good things about them, so you should get genuine cells.

ok…great…report if the batteries are like it must be (when you will recieve it)
Thankyou

nkon.nl is best and proven source for EU customers. I won’t buy from Ali anymore. Se ne splača (it’s not worth it).

Fellows, please don't delete your posts right after publishing them unless you absolutely don't want to say a thing. I mean, edit and change whatever in them. When you delete a post and create another right after, the thread answer notification becomes invalid.

I wondered when I saw the Colaier G35 cells advertisement if that was as good a deal as it appeared. Thanks for commenting on it.
Hm, Colaier also sells the Lii-202 charger for several dollars more than other places that have it marketed under their own brand. Hmmm.

By the way:

Photos from a french fellow review in this sale ad: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32811943155.html

Wow! :facepalm: He built an e-bike battery pack where he is using a thin wire to carry all the current from each battery stage (up to 30A or more). Creepy! Hope he is fine, really. I would have used ≈5x AWG20 wires or 5x (2 × 0.25) mm² solder wick patches for that same requirement, better safe than sorry.

Mon, 12/02/2019 - 03:54

+1
I don’t care of Ali will save me shipping and a few cents on cell price, I go with nkon for peace of mind.

Looking for a cheap single-cell charger to include with flashlight gifts. Had my eye on the Liitokala Lii-100, but can’t find it from a US supplier.
Does somebody know where to get it in time for Xmas?

Or can you suggest another?
Must have
Less than ten bucks, preferably a lot less.
Single-cell, multi-size.
Lithium or NiMH Charging (I think NiMH capability is important when giving to muggles, a bit of idiot-proofing.)
A charge percentage indicator, not just a red-green light. 25-50-75 percent.
Power bank is a plus, not required.
USB, no wall wart needed.
Deliverable in less than two weeks.

If you wanna gamble, these may arrive on time with ePacket or AliExpress Standard Shipping:

I bought and tested 4 of these. Not for NiMH but good product, great service and close to you too!

And they have name brand 18650s for less than $3!

I like the idea with a voltage display on a single cell charger.
The multi chemistry feature can also be very useful and the two currents means more battery sizes can be charged at a good rate. It seems that Liitokala is the only one doing this on a single cell charger.
Can insert the battery in either polarity, another unique feature.
It looks like they started in business by selling more complex cell analyzers, and only then moved to regular chargers, and that’s why they continue with the extra features.

However, on further inspection I decided the user interface is too many options to gift to The Muggles. I will give them plain Li-Ion chargers.
I had not yet seen the new S1 charger with digital display. Will get one of those for when I’m traveling light.

Thanks for the help.

Since I don’t vape anymore I’m less concerned with a battery blowing up in my face as I once was. I’ve personally bought 8 of these. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32888419252.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.58934c4dNTg4bQ

All tested above 3200 mah and 6 months later have not had any issues with them. These are Chinese batteries. Do I trust Chinese batteries? If they test right and are consistent, then yes I do but hey that’s just me. I trust my wife too, though she could be out blanking sancho every day, I don’t have evidence of it so I’m good. I would buy them again without thinking about it.