BLF LT1 Lantern, Whining, Ranting about USB C port issues go here.

[Sparks65]

Thanks, f0xx that was great!!!

[jon7]

Thanks for all of the info! Unfortunate that they implemented USB-C charging incorrectly, but honestly most devices implement it incorrectly so I think most people are used to that!

[anonymous_user]

@BurningPlayd0h

I have a bunch of USB-C devices and don’t even have a C-to-C cord yet lol. All of them have included C-to-A cables, so I wonder how many consumer devices are actually following the standard?

I think some manufacturers default to USB A to C for compatibility reasons. Many people have plenty of chargers and computers with USB A ports. The device itself could still support USB PD properly. And yes I know the obvious answer would be to just include both types of cables.

[Lux-Perpetua]

I think for all LT1 lanterns of batch #1 and #2 this following picture should work:

[xevious (Gary)]

@Lux-Perpetua

I think for all LT1 lanterns of batch #1 and #2 this following picture should work:

Terrific diagram that makes it very clear. Thank you! :+1:

[pooptoast]

Thank you Lux-Perpetua, great diagram. I’m sure there are still some people who will whine about their USB-C purity but I simply cannot comprehend how this is a dealbreaking issue when the workaround is so damn simple.

[Stittville_Ed]

The HDMI will be in V90000000000, can’t wait to use it

[Yokiamy]

@Trail Trek

I use a type-c to type-c in my car to charge the phone but i have tons of type-A (the fat end) to type c in the house so this would not have been an issue.
I suppose i can see some the issue in a one wire only setting. i have a type c powerbank and in order to charge my type-c items fast i use a type c to type c cable so it uses power delivery (pd) to negotiate a high charge rate. Sometimes i go camping and only take that cable so i can charge, phones, laptop, gopro etc so maybe in that very specific scenario i would not be able to charge. But if they are fixing it anyway im super happy.

What car are you driving? Never seen a car with USB-C built in (yet)

[DBSAR]

@will34

The main issue here is people thought the USB-C port was chosen for wide compatibility hence they expected it to be correctly integrated.

Wrong….

The USB-C port was chosen over the Micro USB for DURABILITY and reversible plugging, and the only thing that’s changed is that now instead of using a micro usb cable to charge, you’d have to use a USB A to C cable to charge.

Exactly. The LT1 was not designed, or intended to have the “fast-charging” high amp protocol, we only went with the USB-C type port for the durability and the fact that it can plug in in any direction. (easier in the dark) The LT1 is set to be charged at either the 1.5 amp default or set to a 0.75 amp charge rate to allow the ability to charge from weaker, low-amp power sources such as small Solar chargers, small power banks, lower power car & RV USB power ports, and so on. Unlike a phone, there is absolutely no reason that the LT1 needs a 3+ amp charge rate. even at the 0.75 amp setting there is plenty of time in a day to charge it when its not in use, also for the added benefit of longer cell life when being used in off grid situations where the lantern will be used every night & charged every day possibly, (365 days a year)

[Stereodude]

@DBSAR

Exactly. The LT1 was not designed, or intended to have the “fast-charging” high amp protocol, we only went with the USB-C type port for the durability and the fact that it can plug in in any direction. (easier in the dark) The LT1 is set to be charged at either the 1.5 amp default or set to a 0.75 amp charge rate to allow the ability to charge from weaker, low-amp power sources such as small Solar chargers, small power banks, lower power car & RV USB power ports, and so on. Unlike a phone, there is absolutely no reason that the LT1 needs a 3+ amp charge rate…

None of which have anything to do with the mistake in the USB-C implementation. No one is complaining that it doesn’t charge at 3A. They’re complaining that it doesn’t charge.

[dealgrabber2002]

Any have an estimate runtime on the default step brightness for 3rd, 4th, and 5th (brightest) mode on 4 tested 3000MaH batteries? I just want to get a rough idea.

[shirnask]

There was no mistake

[Stereodude]

@shirnask

There was no mistake

So it doesn’t charge with many USB-C chargers that are compliant to the USB-C spec by design?

You guys should just stop digging… :person_facepalming:

[shirnask]

That was not a consideration.

The same to you

[Stereodude]

@shirnask

That was not a consideration.

So why are they fixing it then since it’s intentionally defective by design?

You really should stop speaking for the LT1 team. It’s embarrassing.

[shirnask]

And you should stop making up your own history

[Stereodude]

@shirnask

And you should stop making up your own history

Projection is real folks!

[MtnDon (Don Miller)]

BLF Rule #4

Please avoid fighting. If you or somebody else is losing their calm, please drop the subject.

[Flying_Luminosity]

@Stereodude

@shirnask

There was no mistake

So it doesn’t charge with many USB-C chargers that are compliant to the USB-C spec by design?

You guys should just stop digging… :person_facepalming:

I don’t see it as a ‘fix’, more like an upgrade. In the same way that a USB-C connector is a definite upgrade from its nasty predecessor.

[hank]

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