AliExpress Sofirn Official Store doesn't ship orders and doesnt respond

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AliExpress Sofirn Official Store doesn't ship orders and doesnt respond

Hi guys, I was wondering if you have any experience with Sofirn Aliexpress store. I made some orders on their 11.11. event but they haven’t shipped anything. All items have tracking numbers an they just read “logistiy order created” which means they havent actually sent the items. When I asked them about it or when will they ship I always receive some automated messege about large order volume and my messeges are viewed as unread. Does anyone have the same experience?

Edit 2.12.2019:
I sent several messeges to sofirm and after several rounds of automated repplies I managed to get a human to talk to me. They promised me to ship everything tomorrow. They will even start shipping a next batch of lanterns tomorrow.

Edit: 7.12.2019
Sofirn still hasnt shipped my ordes and I requested a refund. They promissed my 2.12. to ship it “tomorrow” and never did. They also stopped responding to my messages. At this point I now longer care how good the flashlights I ordered are. They lied to me several times and their behavior can be best described by the word fraudulent. They have very dishonest business practices and I will avoid them in the future.

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I’m in the same situation, I created several separate orders which have been given the same tracking number and nothing shipped yet. I’ve not bought from the Ali store before.

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Theres been post about sofirns aliexpress store using fake tracking numbers and selling items not in stock

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/66509?page=6

https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/e2e0xy/trying_to_figure_out...

https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/e2xcfe/be_careful_ordering_...

Basically u might have to file a dispute

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It is the same every 11-11 sale, same last year. I think that both they sell items that they do not have in stock (or even made) and also that the volume that need to be shipped is too large to handle efficiently for Sofirn/post service. The way they deal with that is very chinese and not how we like it. It does not help that they are a small company so capacity for every activity is limited.

The most practical way for customers to deal with that is to let them know what went wrong but at the same time not be too upset about it and usually in the end your items arrive (too late).

If you can not buy stuff at 11-11 without getting upset, it may be better for your health to not buy around these sale events, the deals are not that great anyway Silly

I bought a few Sofirn C01S lights a week after 11-11 and they were shipped within two days and will arrive well before my 11-11 Sofirn items.

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Its a sofirn problem …

All my other 11.11 orders including lumintop and liitokala shipped just fine and have already arrived

The difference?

- they werent selling out of stock items
- they didnt mark all the orders with fake tracking numbers to avoid the auto cancellation (which affects ratings) when the processing time runs out
- they didnt try to send me more fake tracking numbers (sofirn tried to send me 2 more which dont show up)

Etc …

One would think ordering 11.11 would be a safe bet for arrival by xmas, and with my other 11.11 orders it is …

Hell the other BLF post has folks ordering in october and before who still have issues Wink

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Bearbreeder wrote:
Its a sofirn problem …

All my other 11.11 orders including lumintop and liitokala shipped just fine and have already arrived

The difference?

- they werent selling out of stock items
- they didnt mark all the orders with fake tracking numbers to avoid the auto cancellation (which affects ratings) when the processing time runs out
- they didnt try to send me more fake tracking numbers (sofirn tried to send me 2 more which dont show up)

Etc …

One would think ordering 11.11 would be a safe bet for arrival by xmas, and with my other 11.11 orders it is …

Hell the other BLF post has folks ordering in october and before who still have issues Wink


I agree that specifically Sofirn shows this issue, and I think it is the size of the company that causes this, together with the seemingly low-caring attitude (part of it is deliberate, some is ignorance) that many chinese seller have towards customers. Lumintop is a way larger manufacturer, more likely to deal smoothly with large sale volumes, but if you think that Lumintop is a fine example of how to deal with customers, read the story of the BLF-GT and find some similar stories that are going on with Sofirn now.

But what I find difficult to understand is that so many customers do not simply anticipate with a more easy-going attitude on the same things that go wrong with chinese selllers for as long as I am into the hobby (8 years now) . You know beforehand that there is a fair chance that you will be treated unjust, then you decide to get involved with chinese sellers anyway (Sofirn, Banggood, Gearbest, and quite a few more), then you get angry and loud about indeed being treated unjust. ?????

Btw, my impression is that showing being upset hardly has influence on them, while phragmatically telling them what went wrong and clearly telling them how they can make it right is the most effective way to get things done. Repeat when needed. You get your stuff in the end, for a price that you will never be able to achieve at home, if even you could find it elsewhere.

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This is actually the first time ive had to deal with a dishonest seller on aliexpress who uses fake tracking numbers and sells out of stock items, falsely claiming they are in stock

Hell even the seller of my 35 cent light from 11.11 shipped it promptly with tracking and it has arrived … when a small little “garbage” selling store can fulfill orders more honestly and promptly than sofirn …

Unless folks speak up LOUDLY, those sofirn folks will just keep on doing it, they arent even responding to the OP through aliexpress chat …

They responded when i filed a dispute, they promptly send me more fake tracking nunbers Wink

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It is not nice how Sofirn deals with their fulfillment issues, same thing happened to me this 11-11. But hey, Sofirn has almost limitless credit IMO for making innovative new flashlights together with BLF, helping with changing the flashlight industry to our liking. Cool (your 35 cents flashlight seller has done nothing about that, they just stock up what seems to sell and then sell it) I therefore hardly care about how and when I receive my flashlights, as long as I get them eventually.

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Well ill give em credit for being inventive with the fake tracking numbers … they look just like the real thing until u punch em in !!!

What is doubly hilarious is that they were trying to pump up sales this black friday despite them being out of stock and not fulfilling the backlog from 11.11 in time Wink

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I guess we are quite different in how we react to these issues, and it stays that way Facepalm Smile
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Yeah if they want to be a real consumer brand, not just some flashaholics workshop …

Then they should probably stop violating aliexpress rules (fake tracking numbers, selling out of stock products), stop lying to their customers (fake tracking numbers, claiming stock when not yet produced) and actually answer them (see OP)

I actually have a message where they admitted the item wasnt produced yet when ordered

U can bet im putting that in the dispute Wink

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I ordered some and paid over 89 dollars for DHL so I could have them in time to reship as Christmas gifts. The tracking number they gave is not valid. The really annoying thing is that I had gone with Sofirn over Astrolux to avoid Banggood as I have had nothing but problems with them. I hope Aliexpress will look after it’s customers better than Banggood.

Thanks for posting this as I can niw see I need to get something else for Christmas gifts.

In other news, Emisar made another sale to me. I was sitting on the fence, but with the shenanigans some of these companies pull I will just stick with the honest company.

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I sent several messeges to sofirm and after several rounds of automated repplies I managed to get a human to talk to me. They promised me to ship everything tomorrow. They will even start shipping a next batch of lanterns tomorrow.

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I did have a human talk to me 5 days ago, and that human sent me 2 fake tracking numbers (at least: after 5 days not found by 17track)

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djozz wrote:
I did have a human talk to me 5 days ago, and that human sent me 2 fake tracking numbers (at least: after 5 days not found by 17track)

I’ll give them the benefit of doubt one more time and wait what happens tomorrow. They promised to ship it, we’ll see.

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Strange that Sofirn are keeping silent about this, when they are usually pretty quick when it comes to posting in threads related to their items.

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Some two weeks ago, Lumintop sent me a tracking code (2 characters, 9 digits, 2 characters) followed by some gobbledygook. After a week of trying, 17track still had not recognized the code. Till I filled in the whole sequence they sent me. And voila, a complete detailled report of the wanderings my light had made thus far.

You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.

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I’m not bothered by the delay, it would just be nice to know roughly when they intend to actually ship the items!

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I have two Sofirn orders that have hardly moved in a month. Both do have genuine tracking numbers, but there are long gaps in between movement. At least one left China yesterday finally. I put it down to 11:11 and Black Friday, clogging up the post system.

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Last year I ordered my first big purchase (Sofirn Q8) along with other items but it was missing from the package. Sofirn said they would reship but the tracking number was unusable. After 3 weeks of frantically holding off filing a dispute I finally received the missing Q8. I’ve bought many things from them since and that’s the only incident so far.

My experience with Sofirn is shaky but I think they are honest and they are the opposite of others blatant scam that will make a fake tracking notice and than cancel shipping 3 weeks later without giving a refund or respond. I reported the scam and AliExpress and gave me a refund within 10 minutes.

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flightless22 wrote:
My experience with Sofirn is shaky but I think they are honest and they are the opposite of others blatant scam that will make a fake tracking notice and than cancel shipping 3 weeks later without giving a refund or respond. I reported the scam and AliExpress and gave me a refund within 10 minutes.

Yeah they will do that too

From their facebook group page …

Too many folks are having issues …

Where there is smoke … Wink

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Flying Luminosity wrote:
Strange that Sofirn are keeping silent about this, when they are usually pretty quick when it comes to posting in threads related to their items.

Because once that happens some of us might post up full screenshots of conversations of sofirn reps sending us fake tracking numbers (which any BLFer can then check)

And those same reps admitting selling stuff that isnt even built yet …

Btw … has anyone gotten the automated message of the russia warehouse fire from them yet? Wink

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I have some recent order for Black Friday. An order of all that need price adjustment for holster. After more than 48 hours, yet to hear from them.

Something is very wrong with Sofirn lately.

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Both of my 11.11 Sofirn orders have the same tracking number. I figured they were being efficient putting the orders together. There is tracking info of it having left the country of origin on Nov 21, but still nothing about reaching the destination country. Maybe sent by sea and not air?

I don’t have a problem with long shipping times, but I do take issue if they are playing games with ghost stock or fake tracking numbers and such.

Additionally, on AliExpress the items I ordered had a delivery date guarantee (not shipping date, delivery!). My decision to order was based in part on that promise. Not every item offers a delivery guarantee, so for those that do, I expect it to be respected. Otherwise they can expect complaints from me. However, until that date, I will wait patiently.

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My orders from 11.11 and my order from amazon for the lantern all have fake tracking numbers. I am becoming impatient already. Almost $200 missing for almost 1 month

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lotrbfme wrote:
My orders from 11.11 and my order from amazon for the lantern all have fake tracking numbers. I am becoming impatient already. Almost $200 missing for almost 1 month

Is this fulfilled by amazon?

If so the tracking should be real

I never buy anything off amazon that aint fulfilled by them

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It is difficult to understand them. The promised replacement USB-C rubber cover flaps for my LT1 lantern were shipped 11-11 and arrived today. I followed the package via the tracking number provided with no issues. The LT1 ordered the same day on their 11-11 sale…. well, I’m waiting for anything to show happening. Sit back and chill out. Have a Beer

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Bearbreeder wrote:
Is this fulfilled by amazon?

If so the tracking should be real

I never buy anything off amazon that aint fulfilled by them

No, the LT1’s being sold on Amazon are not FBA. The page says “Ships from and sold by Sofirn.”

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Over the years have gotten fake tracking #‘s from BangGood, Gearbest, Wallbuys (RIP), Ebay sellers, list goes on.
Here is one problem, with the advent of being able to print your own postage from your computer, you can get a real tracking number on the package but it is never going to start to track until you actually ship it and it gets scanned into the tracking system.

So they print a stack of shipping labels and wait for stock or wait until they have 500 items to take to post office, etc.
This is just another one of the issues that we have to put up with when dealing directly with Chinaman.

Usually if the item is sold through Amazon they will have more incentive to get it actually shipped fairly fast as compared to Aliexpress.
One other piece of friendly advice,

NEVER EVER PAY FOR DHL,EXPRESS,ETC.shipping, you just wasted your money if they don’t have it in stock (for real) they can’t ship it express.
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Here’s another problem with Express shipments from China. The same problem I have when order a bulk from Alibaba.

They tend to use forwarders since the retail rate DHL/Fedex offers is usually way more than they could afford. That also adds to transit time until it actually reaches the carrier. Then the tracking number might then be replaced by the forwarder’s.

 

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Sofirn Ali Store – 12 orders in 12 months, no dramas, it gets delivered within 2-6 weeks.

Have had plenty of BG, GB and AE shipments not tracking until it gets to domestic delivery stage – ie for me only tracks once it gets to Australia.

If you want it quick, buy local. If you want it cheap, buy Chinese.

The only time I purchased a torch locally was when it was AUD$180odd dollars and I wanted local consumer warranty protection.

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