Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread

Putting “Coronavirus confirmed in China Post” as your title is just plain wrong. I guess you are just like the media & like to play off people’s fear. Shame on you.

Some of you need to get an update from your handlers. President Xi openly states that the spread of the virus is accelerating and that China faces a “grave situation”.

I just googled the phrase “coronavirus confirmed in China Post”. The ONLY hit on all the internet was @tempo’s post here on BLF. Shame on you.

Its highly unlikely a virus could survive the Chinese shipping times, if it was next day delivery or 48 hour express id be a little concerned

That said those on the front lines of the post & courier services out there will be highly vulnerable and I’d certainly avoid handling bank notes out there!

Maybe someone can make use of this Effects of Air Temperature and Relative Humidity on Coronavirus Survival on Surfaces - PMC
Effects of Air Temperature and Relative Humidity on Coronavirus Survival on Surfaces

Assessment of the risks posed by severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) coronavirus (SARS-CoV) on surfaces requires data on survival of this virus on environmental surfaces and on how survival is affected by environmental variables, such as air temperature (AT) and relative humidity (RH). The use of surrogate viruses has the potential to overcome the challenges of working with SARS-CoV and to increase the available data on coronavirus survival on surfaces. Two potential surrogates were evaluated in this study; transmissible gastroenteritis virus (TGEV) and mouse hepatitis virus (MHV) were used to determine effects of AT and RH on the survival of coronaviruses on stainless steel. At 4°C, infectious virus persisted for as long as 28 days, and the lowest level of inactivation occurred at 20% RH. Inactivation was more rapid at 20°C than at 4°C at all humidity levels; the viruses persisted for 5 to 28 days, and the slowest inactivation occurred at low RH. Both viruses were inactivated more rapidly at 40°C than at 20°C. The relationship between inactivation and RH was not monotonic, and there was greater survival or a greater protective effect at low RH (20) and high RH (80) than at moderate RH (50%). There was also evidence of an interaction between AT and RH. The results show that when high numbers of viruses are deposited,

And then the law of preservation of misery kicks in. The frontline workers will try to go from their unsafe working environment to their safe family environment: taking the virus with them.

If cold germs (that’s a virus right?) can survive living on the moon for a while with extreme cold ,extreme heat ,no water & also being exposed to cosmic rays ,I’m sure they can survive a trip across the sea in a cardboard box!

it is possible for some viruses to survive a few weeks in cold conditions, but for the vast majority its hours to days even in ideal conditions (thankfully)

Mmmmmmmm, not quite. Hantavirus is common in the western US, and can survive for years if not decades in mouse droppings. Go cleaning out a barn or something, inhale mousecrap-dust, and you can pick it up.

I’m not about to don surgical gear every time I use a new flashlight, but I think I’d give any package a once-over to see if anything… “organic”… might be on it.

But hey, that’s why we have UV lights, too.

Just like preschools. I always say kids are little walking disease-vectors anyway…

My grand daughter started preschool last fall. My wife and I are pretty healthy usually but we both had colds we could not kick for months on end. Going to the store is a crap shoot these days. If I’m near someone hacking up a lung, I turn and go the other way. Wash my hands as soon as I get home. This new virus going around is a little scary, especially for the very young and very old.

hm maybe best not to buy anything from china for a while until this clears up…

I’ll stick with ordering copper lights since the are anti-microbial naturally. :slight_smile:

Mmmm ..
. aren't you a bit too fast to see other people doing bad things ?

My take on this tittle is just someone trying to do a "coronavirus confirmed in China" post for gathering informations and not adding the quotation marks

After seeing the OP I immediately did some Googling, but should probably have included the results in my last post.
Basically, it seems the idea of Coronavirus surviving more than 2 days in a shipment highly improbable, and each hour that passes makes it less probable.
And Coronavirus has never been “confirmed” in any shipment.

@ Kame, “China Post” is China’s mail service, like the US’s USPS.

I am not alarmed, but if the virus comes from a manipulation for military purposes, it may have features introduced to make it more resistant. Surely we are getting more alarmed than we should be, but everything that comes from China I steam at 100°C (212°F); on the pretext that it’s winter, I’ll get it from the mailman with gloves on. :smiling_imp:

I know what china post is ;) and still think you misanderstood the tittle as it would make no sense to have it "confirmed in china post" as you explain it yourself but i'll stop here :)

Maybe our parcels will pass through customs quicker as nobody will want to touch them :slight_smile:

I also assumed that the reference was to the postal department when it said “China Post”—both capitalized.