[New] Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 Ti

Agree, i am very happy with it, but the tint is way too cool, looks almost blue compared to all my 4000 K 219c’s.

Maybe they are willing to sell the mcpcb with LED alone?
They recently released the Nichia version of the Tool AA ti…

Just assembled it again, forgot to measure the diameter of the MCPCB, maybe Kaidomain’s 10 mm MCPCB’w will fit ?

THIS ?

If the MCPCB is equal to the Tool AA V2.0, it will be 12mm on the “circle” and 14mm on the “flaps” :+1:

Yay! Just received my Ti Tool the other day and quite happy with it. Now that I have have them Al/Ti side by side, I can definitely say that while this being my first and likely last Ti flashlight, it's definitely a keeper, a must have :) No way I could do without this one :))

Now..

1st.. STUPID, STUPID XP-L2!. Why ?!? :| Had to go, obviously. Took an XP-L from one of my previous Al Tool AA which got a 219C "sidegrade" and popped it right in place of the awful XP-L2 that it came with. Also, note that the Ti has a copper MCPCB whilst the Al Tool AA's have aluminum ones, which I'm quite happy about. For whatever reason, my tool Ti gets pretty much as hot as my Al ones and quite as fast, although.. I knew Titanium had roughly 10 times less the thermal conductivity of Aluminum.. (?) Both the Ti and Al Tools had an upgrade to AS5 thermal compound, since I've got them open and fiddled with the emitters, so, only difference was the MCPCB'S at this point - with this setup both ran as hot and got there as fast as one another.

The rubber boot on the Ti's tail cap is translucent and thinner so it would let the blue LED's shine through. On the plus side, the boot is now always under the flush level so you can tail stand the Ti every single time, unlike the Al ones, on which the rubber boot always gets bulged around half a mm above the tail cap tabs and always wiggles while tail standing, if tail standing at all if that bulge is even bigger. Downside, while pressing the switch on the Ti, the rubber boot kinda gets squished in a weird way and basically prevents you from preparing down the switch, or at least makes it very difficult.

Tail cap tabs aren't filed on the inside, thus they are sharp and if you have sensitive enough fingers, with lots of presses, you may get discomfort or blistering or even a cut.

I am wondering, if you are using an AA 1.2/1.5V cell, obviously the tail LED's won't light up, but will there still be any parasitic drain still ? If anyone knows, I'd like to know myself. I'm not sure how the diodes are going, if they'll still show a "parasitic" resistance in the circuit while under their Vf junction threshold or whatever is it called..

Gold pocket clip: I know most people hate it, but I think I quite like it. At least it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I may prefer a cyan or some form of blue over the gold one, but I'm definitely not loosing any sleep over it.

The threads are greased, but they are not smooth, not even close by comparison to the Al Tool.

Will probably edit later on if anything else comes to mind.

Cheers!

I received my Tool AA Ti in the mail this afternoon. Immediately after opening it, I was very pleased. The light feels robust, the machining is good, and the threads are very smooth for a titanium light.

Unfortunately, my reception to my new light soured the instant I powered it on. Yuck! Not only was the CCT far too cool, but the tint shift was horrible. Not 30 Minutes after receiving it, I went in for an emitter swap.

The emitter is fixed to a non standard shaped board, but I was able to cut and file a Kaidomain 16mm star to fit. In order to get everything to button up nicely, I also had to take a bit of height off of the centering ring.

My Tool Ti now wears a 3,000K SST20 and the beam is fantastic. It certainly throws further now, but I am indifferent towards that.

I also am not pleased with the driver. When using a 14500, the low mode is far too high (16 lumens!), though now mine has an SST20, it is probably a bit less than that, but still, too bright. The driver seems to be another bespoke part, so I doubt I will be able to swap it for something more capable.

I just got mine and using fresh off the charger eneloop and an Efest IMR 14500 600mAh 9.75A cell. I measured 4.9A and 2.19 A on high and .05A and .06A on low. The low on the IMR was a lot brighter. I Like it so far I like lights I can just throw in my pocket and not worring about scratching up. :wink:
Chris

Please be warned!

Don't use it on Turbo for too long, using 14500 batteries!

https://1lumen.com/14500-aa-reviews/lumintop-tool-aa-2-ti/

I’ve used a 14500 in mine every day since I got it a little over a month ago and have had ZERO issues. Granted I don’t use turbo for long periods of time, usually I use medium or high. In the case that I do use turbo it’s usually for less than one minute.

Yup, same here. I’m using 14500 but aware of the limitations of titanium and only use turbo for a minute or two at a time.

All the same, it’s disturbing what happened during your runtime tests, ChibiM.

Wow. I was convinced Lumintop put a timer or thermal control in this light, but apparently not…

Mine gets hot quick at the head

I have the black aluminum version (not the Ti) and I appreciate this well presented review.

Just to be clear: I didn't write the review myself, but Peter did. He found out about this problem!

It's a shame though, that you can't really use Turbo with 14500 for too long.

It really looks like a bad solder job, since my replacement (with good old leaded solder and resin flux) held up well.
Lumintop were happy that i pointed it out, and if they are reopening their business any soon, hopefully they will address this issue (and let’s hope for other LED options as well as a lower low mode)

id be insterested in how the voltage indicator works out

Ok, i did my first reflow ever and it turned out pretty good (except that i put the LED reversed, so plus and negative pads are exchanged now)

I have lost quite some lumens, but the high CRI 4000K SST20 make it a totally different light.

Very happy with it!

My regular (white) Tool AA 2.0 arrived today, and it has an illuminated tail switch. I’m worried about the drain of it though. Won’t it notably run down a 14500 in several days?

Not several days, but i have measured it 10mA, so please take that in mind

Okay, so more like 2 months to fully drain a typical 14500 battery. I take it this is a new feature for the non-Ti Tool AA 2.0 flashlights? I really do not like it and probably would not have selected/bought this light had I known about it. How is it a good idea to half-deplete your battery in a month without ever turning on your light

You can ofcourse disassemble the LED’s in the switch.

Or physically lock out the light by partially unscrewing the head or tailcap. Works for all tools except the Ti version.

I think it’s great they added the illuminated tailcap!