If you are critical and look for independent sources of information, it is dead-easy to find truth, even on the internet. If you believe who yells the loudest on the internet, it is easy to be fooled.
Based on how it’s shaping up in Milan, may want to prepare your supplies before all the shelves are empty. All it takes is one announcement by the government, and everything changes. I’m sure the people in Italy thought nothing could ever happen to them too…
Djozz, is it that easy to find truth? A former colleague of mine once said to me: "If you want to know at least half of the truth, buy and read articles from three newspapers...one from the left-wing party, one so called liberal and one from the right-wing party." I would greatly appreciate to seeing a list of sources on the internet that are absolutely honest and transparent about what's going on. Regarding China we have been given only official numbers from the CCP. The WHO has not been able to report about actual facts for quite some time. Meanwhile, the WHO refuses to call this event a "pandemic" even though the situation in Italy, Iran and Korea gets worse by the minute.
I assume that WHO news are considered as true as it gets. But what I read there is that authorities are busy arguing about terminology and definitions but still they do not act to be properly prepared to get the global spread under control. Every country in Europe is acting differently in order to prevent further infections. What's the point in having a World Health Organization when they do not have any real influence on tough decisions to be made?
“but nowadays is very hard to know the truth…about everything…………. anything”
I like your wording “as true as it gets”, that is about how I like my news. And since I look for facts more than opinions (I like to form my own) I’m not overly trying to read all flavours of newspapers as long as I trust that the facts are right.
Unfortunately (IMO), the WHO, as any UN organisation, has no actual power, as most autonomous countries in the world will not give up any autonomy on any subject (that trend is only getting stronger nowadays). So the world is stuck with whatever the individual countries decide as separate policy towards one and the same global problem. The WHO can only advice.
Thinking by yourself is to think over a matter and decide your own opinion fully independently on what everybody else think. If you are the only one of thousands that has that opinion, it is perfectly alright, as long as you think by yourself and that is your genuine opinion. If you agree with everybody else, and that also is your genuine opinion, that’s also perfectly alright.
some ppl are too concerned imo
"History is a set of lies agreed upon"........ one of the many reasons to be an independent thinker.
well i still have doubts about the real numbers in German, France and others; i don’t think that someone can escape
TL/dr:
The way things were shaping up in Wuhan, I’ve been wondering about this possibility for a while.
I would not be the least bit surprised if it turns out the number of infections in China is already in the millions, and most cases are either asymptomatic or else mild to moderate severity and not recognized as distinct from influenza.
If the thread is talking about coronavirus status in the world, can the title be edited?
coronavirus is worldwide issue, we, as human, need to combine and fight it.
Why people are concerned?
Because incubation period is about 14 days, the infected person never know he/she was infected untill symptom occurred. When the infected person go to hospital, about 14 days passed, many people met this guy which means a risk of infection.
The infected numbers pulished by government is correct or not, it’s not the key point. If infected people have no symptom, they won’t go to hospital. Then the government will not know how many people infected.
The best way is stay at home, protect yourself if you have to go out. After about 2 weeks, all the infected people have symptom and most will be cured in about 1-2 weeks. Hold on for about a month, the virus stops.
But that is the perfect situation. Different people have different thoughts.
Why people don’t care much?
The lethality rate is only a little higher than flue, some would say: I am strong and healthy, the virus will be killed by my immune system. It’s not a big deal for me.
But think about your famlies, are your kids, parents, friends, neighbours the same strong and heathy as you?
In China, things getting better, but we have not won.
We wear masks everyday.
We try best staying at home except going to office.
We try best not going to public place.
We buy daily necessities online.
Protect yourself, protect your family.
If you have symptom, go to hospital to see if it was caused by coronavirus.
If not, that’s good news.
If confirmed, stay optimistic, the hospital will handle it, you will be cured.
Sooner or later, we will win.
^ 
Well said Barry!
Good idea, title changed.
Thanks a lot SB! :THUMBS-UP: The new title is much more appropriate whereas spreading of the virus via mail has not been proven in a single case.
Update:
New infections are being reported from Adeje, Tenerife (Canary Island, Spain) with now about 1,000 people held in quarantine after an Italian tourist was positively tested for Covid-19. Further infections within Italy were reported in Bergamo (Sicily), Tuscany and South Tyrol. Panic buying in supermarkets and drug stores have already commenced in these regions. Italian authorities are desperately trying to find patient zero but without any success so far.
Italy:
Spain:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51627597
Update 2:
Austria has reported two infected people, i.e. two 24 year old Italians who live in Innsbruck, Austria.
Croatia has reported one infected young man in Zagreb who went to Italy some days ago.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8042079/Austria-confirms-two-cases-coronavirus.html
The current situation proves that the system in Europe to contain the virus spread is not effective:
- Local, regional, national and international authorities do not work effectively together. Only today some ministers have decided to meet in Italy to discuss emergency response plans.
- Communication between different health organizations and local hospitals/authorities is very poor which can lead to dangerous misinterpretations, as can be seen in Cologne (Germany) and Italy now.
- Patients with typical Covid-19 symptoms are put in the same waiting room with all other patients before being presented to the doctor.
- Face masks/respirators to protect oneself or others against the disease are nowhere to buy.
Great post Barry. Some people compare it to the flu. But the flu kills 0.1% while the coronavirus kills aprox 2 to 4% thats 20 to 40 times the amount of people!! And what we have learned is that it kills more by overwhelming the health services of the area. In Hubei the mortality rate is much higher because of that.
Maybe not. So far the mortality-rate is calculated by dividing the number of death’s by the number of confirmed cases. The latter are “created” by medical persons if certain individuals are not feeling well and are showing specific symptoms.
So far several outbreaks are reported without the ability to pinpoint a patient zero. So it is suggested that some infected persons do not show up on the radar because they are not feeling ill, have no symptoms, and therefore do not attribute to the number of confirmed cases.
But these persons are (unwittingly) capable of infecting other people. Who’ll get ill and may die.
Which leads to the rather contradictive conclusion that the mortality-rate is lower because people don’t have to be a confirmed case in order to spread the virus, which then leads to more death’s because we could not see it coming.
Anyway, the “real” mortality-rate will only emerge if and when it’s all over. Which is doubted by some virulogists, who predict this strain will never go away. And will be added to the seasonal/ yearly outbreak of the “common” flu’s that can be more or less contained because for those we have developed a remedy.