i had a bad flu few weeks ago, high fever for 2-3 days, little cough, no breathing issues, strong back pain, first few days when i coughed it felt like barb wire was pulled thru thorat,\chest, had some phlegm come out, went for an xray 5 days later, felt very weak, but lungs were clean, but still don’t feel 100% , at that time i did not have enough symptoms to be tested, doc never took a flu swab. maybe it was c19, may not, but no one in my family who was around me got sick, i did use caution thou, kept distance from them, i did take tamiflu, started the first day i had fever
Perspective:
Population of U.S. = 327,200,000
Number of cases of CV-19 in U.S. as of this writing = 85,435
Percentage of U.S. population infected with CV-19 = 0.03%
slmjim
I think the next weeks will be gruesome. Actually, last year, WHO warned about a global pandemic with potential to kill 50-80 million people. And all worlds nations should start prepare. What we witness now is a foreboding catastrophe. Problem is that world leaders didn’t take WHO seriously.
Number of cases of CV-19 in U.S. as of this writing = 85,435 (Reported and Known)
vs how many tested?
To say people are “overreacting” is subjective. Afterwords if the overreaction works, some say “see! it was all for nothing” when it may well have been the overreaction that helped slow it down, or if it got bad and everything got snowed under “how could you not see this coming?”
A guy in NYC who carries around garlic to fend off cougar attacks,“but there has not been a cougar attack here in 100 years” “See how well it works”
Or the guy who carries a bomb with him every time he flies “The odds of there being a bomb on a plane are very low, the odds of there being 2 bombs on a plane are pretty much zero”
Or the piece of emergency equipment that never gets used, because like all emergency equipment, you don’t need it al all, right up until the point you need it really badly
I like the way you think.
Just like y2k. Was it going to be a non-issue? Or was the hysteria what kept everything from going boom?
Seeing this should probably be mandatory!!!
Sorry, I forgot to include the link. It’s a German news website but deepl.com or Google Translate might be able to translate it into English.
Apparently this is not true.
(in french) Coronavirus. Des contre-vérités allemandes sur les hôpitaux de Strasbourg
(google translated in German) Coronavirus. Des contre-vérités allemandes sur les hôpitaux de Strasbourg
(and in english) Coronavirus. Des contre-vérités allemandes sur les hôpitaux de Strasbourg
On Dutch TV there were reports that the situation around Strasbourg is very serious.
And it might happen there are two patients and only one bed avaiable at a certain moment.
But I have heard nothing (yet) about palliative treatment.
IF it happens, nobody will tell, because any form of euthanasia is a big NON in France.
What I did hear and see on TV is the French use the TGV (French bullet-train) to transfer IC-patients from Strasbourg to hospitals that are less over stressed. Same happens in NL, but we use ambulances and rescue helicopters.
I dunno what up with people sometimes. I work in a Namco arcade, and literally returned to work for the summer season 2 weeks ago. In the first few days, the whole complex had guidelines as did guests.
I could see within a day or so, NO ONE was going to follow the guidelines - for our arcade we had 1, yes 1 bottle of spray cleaner supplied and were expected to clean all machine buttons and touch points hourly……right. In a huge arcade…. that 1 bottle lasted less than 1 day and we were back to regular ‘non covid’ cleaner, and it couldn’t have been done hourly simply because there is 1 member of staff working on the floor in the day, and obviously they do other things like look after guests and machines!
Then the complex, similar guidelines - hourly cleans - they happened every 8 hours instead and again with not useful cleaner. I even said to 1 cleaner - ‘shouldn’t you be cleaning those handrails more often?’ to which he shrugged his shoulders……
Then the guests, all walking around like nothing wrong with swarms of snotty kids, no distancing etc, coughing and sneezing……children licking machines…omg. Worse still, all the guests come from all over the UK and mainly cities - bringing these people down on holiday to rural unaffected areas was a HUGE mistake.
I took the decision 2 days later to self isolate (risking my pay, although it’s sorted for the time being) - I could see no one was taking things seriously - my son has a weakened immune system so I went home, and I have stayed there and have been since.
A week later the camp shut and 3 staff members had it - I don’t know how many have it now. Too late.
The whole reaction is pitiful, as is the advice. That said, you can have top notch advice/procedures but if idiots don’t follow it………
I went shopping yesterday, and if I HAVE to go out to a very public place like a shop, then and only then I wear a mask - the looks I got! anyone would think I was the stupid one! when talking to the checkout girl (no mask at all) she said how sad she was not being ‘allowed’ to wear a mask even if she wanted to (and she did) , as it might freak out customers! WTF! nice one ALDI!
I don’t use a regular one btw - mine (although I already owned it) is apparently ‘surgeon grade’ 
GVS P3
The biggest mistake was to compare it to flu in respect to making people not take it seriously enough. Yes, flu kills more people - but it does not spread so quickly and so thoroughly as covid, nowhere near and also doesn’t seem to infect so many - I know people who have rarely if ever caught flu, but they have this! because it infects more people, it has more chance to kill/be serious.
Personally I think in the end it will eclipse any individual yearly flu figures… but that is a long time away yet.
OK,
Now how about percentage of people tested who were positive?
U.S. Cases tested 552,000 with 85,435 positive = .15477 %
Just have to move the decimal place: 15.477%
Thanks!
Can you do that with my checking account too please 
Yes, since fall I have had a upper respiratory thing going on. A cold that won’t completely go away. Lots of people were complaining of the same.
I keep reading from many posters that this is no worse than the flu based upon the fact that so many Americans die of the flu each year. There are a couple of differences. We don’t really know a lot about the CV-19 because it has only been around for a short period of time. It seems to be transmitted more easily than the flu which means eventually we will have a lot of cases. We have a yearly immunization for flu and at least some treatments (Tamiflu) to lessen the severity. We have NO immunization and no proven ways to mitigate the effects in serious cases. In some cases the symptoms are so slight that people just think they have a cold or a mild case of the flu. All the while they remain just like a 2020 version of Typhoid Mary. Until this country gets a handle on testing so we know with some certainty that it is safe to go back to normal activities I will remain at home. In the meantime we are clueless about the real extent of the pandemic.
I haven’t become a hermit because of this but I only shop once a week now. It’s rare to find my local Kroger type store completely out of anything but a few items like hand sanitizer (didn’t look last visit). It’s not fun to stop doing all of the things I would normally do with groups of people. I have a feeling there might be a lot more candidates for the Darwin award in 2020 than in previous years.
