This was very helpful. I was able to find a couple other lights in these specific test area that shed a bit more light for me on th 09r Thank you.
This was also very helpful. I had seen the 09r compared to the Acebeam X80 and an Imalent DX80 or something like that. Those were floodies but I wondered why the 09r was compared to those instead of the x45. I gotta say either way, I like that the spill is not so wide on the Haikelite, it likely has a further throw than the x45 based in these pictures. I also like the color a bit better on the 09r, they seem a bit more vibrant and variances in color are also more apparent. I can also see the tree’s behind the nursery which the X45 does not light up. Throw is pretty important to me in general but especially on this purchase. I just ended up pulling the trigger on the MT09R and now I’m feeling even better about the purchase. Now the waiting begins. Thank you again.
The only Heikelite distance specs I’ve been able to find was on the 09 with 35’s. That at those lumens (7500 I believe) was supposed to throw 1000+ meters. I assume the 15,000 lumen versions threw something like 600-700 meters. I’m hoping the 24,000lumen v.2 can throw somewhere around 800 meters with the spec bumps, I would be happy with that. The X45 throws about 600 I think so I like where the Haikelite seems to fall. Right between the X45 and the thrower 09r with 35’s which seems like my sweet spot.
I do wonder though what the throwier 09r v.2 with 35’s throws at. It may be something like 1400 meters or so. Also very tempting but I think I need the blend of throw and spill that the 24,000 lumens of the 09r V.2 would likely give. Thank you for the first hand input. Everyone really does seem pretty happy with their MT09R’s.
Mine gives 21K lumens at 24 amps with TA driver, springs bypassed with 20 ga wire thru the batteries and driver, and 30Q batteries.
And it will burn colored paper and it gets HOT FAST.
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I still have a ways to go before I get the confidence to work on my lights and know that I won’t ruin them. I know it can’t be too too hard so I’ll get there. The stuff that’s possible is just too appealing. Thank you for sharing.
I recall the manufacturer-claimed specs for beam distance on the Haikelite MT09R (3x XHP70.2) is 600 meters and MT09R (3x XHP35Hi) is 1000 meters.
However, Haikelite tends to overstate their specs, so probably adjust the figures downward by 10-15% to get the more correct figures.
Thank you for confirming. I have not yet found an actual spec sheet for the MT09R. I wonder how much further the v.2 would throw at the “24,000 lumen”. It seems reasonable that the v.2 could likely throw around 800 meters at least. I doubt the V.2 could only throw what the V.1 did.
MT09R specs from manual
Wow so the v.2 gains no more throw with the extra lumens. I did not see that coming. I figured the Candela likely went up therefore the throw did but I guess not. Thank you for sharing the user manual.
I see the manual on the Haikelite says to use button top batteries with some protections listed. I was wondering which protected button tops you use and if there are any problems with the fit. I’m about to buy some cells but am worried Buttontop & protected cells may not fit or be too tight to close. Figured i’d ask someone that actually has one. Thank you.
I got the one with ’35s and VTC6es (maybe, might be VTC5s or VTC5As), and never had any problems.
Then again, I don’t try imitating the sun, so don’t leave it cranked up that much for that long.
But whichever you do use, they’re the Protected ButtonTop version or regular Flattops?
Series, so protected BTs, unfortunately.
XHP35 HI have a much smaller die than the XHP70.2, and are domeless. This makes them much more throwy.
What reputation does Haikelite have?
Well not a good one. From what I’ve hear is if you can replace the fake FET and do spring bypasses you’ll have a good light. If you can’t don’t buy it.
The lumens on the XHP70.2 went significantly up from v.1 to v.2. I thought candela would have went up too therefore throw must have gone up a bit too. I don’t get how adding more lumens does make the light throw slightly further but thats because I clearly just don’t understand how it works.
This light hasn’t had a model using XHP70A so I’m not sure why you’d say the throw would be the same with them. The XHP70.2 is very close in size of the light-emitting surface and the huge output bump from the 50/70.2 models will definitely increase throw due to sheer output when compared to the original 50.2/70 in the same light.
The cd/lm (a measure of “throwiness) should be very close between A (original) and B (< ”.2”) models.
I was not familiar with the v.1 as all the specs I checked were for the v.2. The only thing I knew was that the numbers doubled in the v.2. I figured they must’ve still been the same-ish components since the reasons for needing the V.2 were more corrective instead of it just being the time to upgrade the model. Clearly I was wrong and that’s exactly why my theory of further throw didn’t pan out with the higher lumens. 600 meters is still very much respectable for what is considered a floodier light. Thank you for helping me understand why it wasn’t making sense to me.
Ohhhhh you’re talking about the light itself, thought you meant XHP70 vs XHP70.2 emitters.
The cd/lm stays the same and throw increases proportionately. The original throw number were almost certainly inflated just as output numbers were, but with the updates (and potentially FET swap and spring bypass) real-world performance gets closer to those optimistic figures.
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Yes I apologize, my lack of knowledge when it comes to emitters makes me imply things I don’t really understand yet when I mention different versions of flashlights.
What happened was that I came across the original group-buy thread on here for the v.1. In the description I saw the thrower went something like 1000 meters and the flood went 600 meters. This is where I got my original impression of the V.1 and it’s specs. From that minimal understanding of the first one is how I made the leap to the farther throw when I saw what the V.2 offered lumen-wise. I didn’t know what emitters were used or that those numbers were inflated. But now I understand that they never actually met those specs throw-wise until the V.2 came out. So that explains why the ratings on throw were identical on paper. I always figured it was a typo and of course all this fueled my ignorance even more.
Thats what brought me here wondering how two different lights (one being noticeably upgraded) could possibly still have the very same throw distances. Thank you for the detailed explanation and sorry for the head-scratching questions.