[UPDATED M4D deal] Manker “EDC Muscle Combo – BLF Limited”

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I really want to buy the E05 Ti. Is strobe really in the mode set? I have to go through strobe to get back to low?

Please tell me strobe isn’t in the mode set.

Definitely interested in the group buy. Any chance for custom serial numbers?

Either chosen numeric or alpha (initials)?

Like "80085"?

Sounds like a nightmare to keep track of :-)

he says:
"with the long version you need to use a protected cell! An unprotected would be much too short! has not enough tension... well - it would work also.. (shakes the tight cell) ...hmmm... i feel its not optimal... (flashlight just works) but optimal is a protected!"

:D

€dit tested and found no downside from using a short, unprotected cell (30Q)

on hart tap it has a short disconnect, but the driver design allows to come back in same mode immedeately!!

Interesting. Some members on TLF reported that Acebeam‘s L17 had disconnects with too short 18650 cells, e.g. Samsung 30Q or Sanyo NCR18650GA. I’m curious if MC13 will also require longer batteries.

both manker do accept short cells

they may disconnect when hit harder than spring travel can handle

BUT the light just comes on again without mode change or such!
I am impressed by that!

Thanks for translation.

Naturally there is a balancing act when trying to accommodate protected and unprotected cells. If you go too much one way, you can risk crushing the longer cells. If you go too much the other way, unprotected cells can flop around. It is hard to be perfect for every cell.

Do the MC13 and E14 III have "low voltage protection" (provided by the flashlight itself) when used with an "unprotected battery"?

Or do the flashlights only have "low voltage protection" (provided only by the "protected battery") when used with a "protected battery"?

Flashlights that have low voltage protection have it for protected and unprotected cells.

Yes I understand that, but not all flashlights have built-in low voltage protection.

Do the MC13 and E14 III have low voltage protection built-in to the flashlight for unprotected batteries?

In the product description in mankerlight site:
“3. Low battery indicator:
Voltage <3.2V, the brightness level downshifts to Moonlight.
Voltage = 2.9V, turn off.
(Ratio Error: ± 0.1V,while using different battery)”

Thanks for that information. Sounds like the flashlights probably do have low voltage protection.

It would be more reassuring to me if they clearly said that the flashlights have built-in low voltage protection using language that actually states "Low voltage protection" (instead of language that just states "Low battery indicator") because some flashlights behave the way they describe that do not have low voltage protection and downshift their brightness and eventually also turn off but continue to discharge the battery.

at 3.2V moon activates on both (tested several times)

But … doesn’t it clearly state that it shuts off when the battery reaches 2.9V? That’s what LVP is.

It’s like a car manual stating, “in the event of a collision exceeding 30 kph, a balloon-like vessel will inflate to protect the front-seat passengers from impact”, and then people wonder if it has airbags.

Lol thank you. This made my day :smiley: :laughing:

Do we know what kind of driver is in either of these lights?

It also states that each flashlight includes a protected battery:

So does the "2.9V, turn off" occur because of the "protected battery" or because of the flashlight?

It is not clearly stated which mechanism provides the "low voltage protection" (the battery or the flashlight).

Do the flashlights have low voltage protection and turn off at 2.9 Volts when using an unprotected battery?

Hopefully forum member Mankerlight or someone who has tested the flashlights using unprotected batteries will comment and clarify this.

I can confirm that LVP kicked in (light turned fully off) around 3.0v on an unprotected cell