With a name like Operation Warp Speed—it’s guaranteed to be safe! And with the right Flux Capacitor anything is possible.
All of the companies developing Covid-19 vaccines in the USA have signed on to the FDA’s vaccine development and testing protocol, including the safety provisions. For a copy of the FDA’s protocol, see: FDA Protocol
The vaccine manufacturers will not benefit if they rush a vaccine to market before it is safe, and they will be watched very carefully during the development and testing process. Promoting fear of the vaccine, based on what we know now, is not a responsible thing to do, for the sake of saving lives.
Since this is NOT a vaccine they say it will be simpler to test.
Yeah I think I’m gonna pass on the vaccine thing and just take my chances. I’m sure they’ll give it to the people who need it most anyway (old people, people with health issues, millionaires in Congress )
I bet you his name is Bret :face_with_monocle:
Ha no different guy. Actually I gave him a Thrunite pocket thrower when we had him over for dinner. He was blown away when I shined my W30 LEP and Imalent MS18 outside and I realized I have some lights I haven’t used in ages. Guy loves to hunt and wants to take me out “spotting deer*. Seems like an excellent excuse to bust out some flashlights
Sound like a fun thing to do, I have forgotten about mine as well.
Huh… I thought they already came with spots.
Wonder how you get ’em to stay still long enough…
Reminds me of the Beavis and Butthead episode where the dude was bench pressing and asked them to “spot him.” And they were like “uhh… there you are. Uh huh huh” (pointing at him)
(Good stuff at 2 minutes)
Careful, spotlighting deer is illegal in a lot of states.
All the Best,
Jeff
Thanks Jeff, I did not know that as a matter of fact. He said where he lives in hillbilly land it’s allowed. I should probably confirm that (:
Haven’t hunted in decades now but it used to be that you couldn’t shine deer in our hillbilly area for a certain period around hunting season. The current law is that you can’t do it after 10 PM starting today until the end of the year. From Jan to now it is fine. Now that I am in the city I occasionally have shined fox to move them away from my dogs. Have no idea if that is actually legal or not.
Think back to late winter and early spring. In the US, as I recall, action was taken in Feb. to limit incoming passengers from certain countries. By mid-March we entered into a full-blown shutdown, with people staying home and only going out if necessary. This lasted through April. Yet by mid May the US allegedly had been the site of 1/4 of all the Covid deaths worldwide even though the US has less than 5% of the world’s population. This just doesn’t make sense. Any rational thinker should be able to see that it doesn’t add up, that something’s wrong with this scenario.
If the US population had gone its merry way, with no shutdown and no precautions, I could understand folks saying that the high number of deaths attributed to Covid in the US was due to our careless attitudes. But we did take precautions. Almost all nonessential businesses shut down for more than a month, people became careful, etc. Even most of those who argued against shutdown and masks were actually participating (while they groused). Meanwhile, Sweden didn’t shut down and took much less drastic precautions, yet they didn’t fare any worse than the US during spring.
I can’t pin down with absolute proof that the high US mortality was due to this, that, or the other thing. But I am reasonably confident that it wasn’t due to incompetent mismanagement on our part. What relative mismanagment there may have been was not of such magnitude that it could logically make such a humongous difference. So it seems obvious to me that the reason (or combination of reasons) must include some shenanigans on someone’s part. And again, no one can prove with certainty the who or the why. But most definitely and obviously, something about the situation stinks to high heaven. Somehow, we’ve ‘been had,’ because without some person or persons pulling a ‘fast one’ there should be no way whatsoever for 5% of the people, while huddling in their homes listening to the drumbeat of Covid fear in March and April, to suffer 25% of the casualties. It belies common sense and reason.
About vaccines —- as an example, many of us got the first shingles vaccine when it came out. It gave moderate protection but far from complete protection.
A few years later, a new and much more protective vaccine came out and there are long waiting lists for it as it’s scarce.
There are a lot of different coronavirus vaccines being brought forward. With adequate recordkeeping we’ll eventually know which ones are moderately protective and which ones are good enough to merit a second round of vaccinations to get better coverage.
It’s a great experiment that will involve hundreds of thousands of people over a long span of time.
“A great experiment,” all right, and I decline to be the guinea pig. 
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There were no significant differences between those who tested positive versus negative when it came to shopping, gathering with fewer than 10 people in a home, going to an office, going to a gym, going to a salon, using public transportation or attending religious gatherings, according to the study.
However, people who tested positive, the data showed, were more likely to have reported dining at a restaurant in the two weeks before they started to feel sick.
The study comes with some limitations ….
Rexlion
I don’t know where you’re getting that. Many deaths in other parts of the world were Covid deaths. They were simply never tested or confirmed. Covid confirmed deaths does NOT equal ALL Covid deaths.
I’m convinced that most of the world had been infected before they knew what hit them and attributed most of the deaths to flu and other diseases.
That’s the problem, more testing = more CONFIRMED cases.
Sweden’s average is 6.6% and US is 2.9%, ratio of deaths to total cases.
Sweden’s population is 10.1M and US is 331.4 Million people.
Sweden provides free health care for all; in US it’s everyman for himself, good luck if you are poor and can’t afford it or don’t have a job with medical insurance benefits.
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The Social Security Administration was intended to provide a basic income for the elders who had worked their whole life and grew old, but now had no job, no pension, no income. This came about after the economic effects of the pandemic of 1918-1920 caused a spiraling downturn into the great depression of 1930. At that time those in charge decided that society should provide some funds to help the old folks.
The question for today is what kind of society does the US want? Do we want to upgrade to the basic medical care standard of living enjoyed by the rest of the developed world, or continue in the dog-eat-dog Lord of the Flies lifestyle of the rich and famous?
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