Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread

Anecdotal evidence is not good evidence.

Yeah Iā€™ve wondered that too. Iā€™ve gone to restaurants, stores, flown on planes, and been around huge crowds of people where no one is wearing masks and I feel great. But Iā€™m a generally healthy person. I think itā€™s the people who are unhealthy to begin with who are mostly at risk. But to qualify that, Iā€™m in IT and know nothing about health, medicine, biology, or a thousand other things

I see they might be lucky, sharing a cup doesnt mean there is enough viral load on the cup etc.

I donā€™t know if there are any reliable tests to show if you had corona before but did you happen to take a test?

Probably same mechanism as flu: A lot of infections are asymptomatic. I found older studies about the flu and was surprised about the dark figure of infections. It appears as if we develop each year (except 2020 likely) some kind of heard immunity with a strong backbone of immune (recent infection by similar flu subtype), vaccinated or people that just develop weak to no symptoms. Thatā€™s why the danger of flue infections are overestimated and why thereā€™s a myth of it mysteriously vanishing each year, I think. Not sure of course.

With corona, weā€™ll have asymptomatic infections, too, but likely to a much lesser degree. Weā€™ll know in a year or two in the aftermath. What we know is itā€™s more deadly so we cannot count on heard immunity unfortunately but have to keep that curve flat until thereā€™s a vaccine, be it Sputnik-V or Apollo-V.

Great, same here :+1: :beer:

Nah, youā€™re wrong.

Wellā€¦ the problem is I took advice from one of my idiot friends who is in the medical field back in March-ish. He told me this was no big deal and it would all blow over. Talked about herd immunity and all that. By the time I realized he had rocks in his head Iā€™d already spent time in huge crowds and around other dummies who did the same thing

A thousand doctors have banded together to say that this virus is not the big deal itā€™s been made out to be, but thatā€™s not evidence either. No use giving a link, the non-doctors would simply have a field day disparaging it. :confounded:

Emergency Room Doctors?

Iā€™m guessing thereā€™s 200,000 people in the USA alone who thought it was a pretty big deal, just before they died of it.

I know youā€™re trying to be cute, but no an appeal to authority by 1k doctors isnā€™t evidence.

It is of interesting that the current estimate for the number of front line health care workers in the US who have died from COVID is right around that same number.

Thanks for sharing, MascaratumB! A must-see for everyone, not only in the USA.

I just saw yesterday's Daily Show, and that interview is excellent.

Dr. Fauci is the man!

Thanks for sharing that video.

The NFL is not joking around.

Recently, three head coaches didn't wear their face masks properly.

Each coach was fined $100,000

And each of their teams were fined $250,000

That's a little over a million dollars in fines!

Huh? Why fine the teams for something the coaches did (or didnā€™t do)? Sounds like someone wants to make AĀ Statementā€¦

Then again, thatā€™s what the sports seems to be about nowadays. Players go memorialiaing a ā€œkidā€ who was ostensibly in the car involved in a drive-by shooting (ie, a criminal himself, or someone who hangs around them while theyā€™re spraying people with bullets), but everyoneā€™s picking on the guy who covers that name and instead memorialises a soldier/hero who suffered burns over something like 75% of his body rescuing his comrades (while soaked in fuel and still on fire, yet) pulling them out of the vehicle.

Kneeling, protesting, etc., why donā€™t they just stick to playing the game?

Back to the masks, the coaches are on the sideline, and I understand calling plays and whatnot, probably far away from others, while players (even those on the sidelines) are practically sniffing each other, yet theyā€™re exempt.

So yeah, it seems more about the gesture and ā€œsetting an exampleā€, by making an exampleā€¦ of the coaches. And hitting the teams for it, too? Seems kinda ridiculous.

You ever hear of freedom of expression or the First Amendment?

Professional athletes are human beings with rights, too.

No oneā€™s forbidding anyone from protesting. Thereā€™s a time and a place for everything. Itā€™s just tacky to do it during a game.

Do you have, like, an actual job? Ie, where youā€™re working for someone else (who makes the rules)? If so, you donā€™t have absolute ā€œfreedomā€ to disrupt normal business to ā€œprotestā€. You can get your ass fired in a hurry.

Thereā€™s that whole ā€œunsportsmanlike behaviorā€ thing, too. If convention has a player taking off his helmet and standing quietly during the SSB, thatā€™s what he should do. No one says he has to sing along, but just donā€™t be an ass and ruin it for other people who want to show respect.

Hell, players can get fined if they donā€™t show up at press conferences and answer nosy questions after a game, or if they quite literally say the wrong thing (eg, question/criticise an Official Decision). That stifles their freedom of expression. Theyā€™re not even allowed to express their opinions to the press, at best say ā€œNo commentā€.

But during a game, with all the cameras rolling, theyā€™re allowed to ā€œprotestā€ and to disrupt things??

Ask yourself what would happen if any players would walk onto the field with ā€œMAGAā€ hats, or write ā€œTrump 2020ā€ on their helmets. :laughing:

(Oh, I know what would happen.)

They either need to allow all forms of protest (turning games into a free-for-all), or none at all. Once they start pickingā€™nā€™choosing whatā€™s allowed and whatā€™s not, they clearly start showing their biases.