Heider CF1 = $10 SIPIK SK68?

yeh i was stupid for not researching however this is the reply that the customer services came out with

Dear Sir,

we thank you for your message and understand your reaction.

But we suggest you to buy this products and compare it yourself, if
they are the same.

It looks like that they are the same but they are not.

Our torch has the same body, because we used the same material and
design. But look if they have the same light power, even when they say
“… lumen”. And soon we will use our specific design, just made by
ourself. Look, when we release Heider CF2.

Mostly these kind of torches use the Cree Q3 technology, not real Q5.

Our torch has a microcontroller, most of them do not have it.

Another aspect is, that the express delivery takes a lot of money. A
seller in UK has not so much to pay when you also live in UK.

But we deliver to every country of the world. And fast delivery.

The last big difference is, that we give you a guarantee of 2 years.

Else I mentioned above, just order 1 of these products and compare it
yourself.

But we also thank you for your interest in our product.

With kind regards,

METEM TEKNOLOJI Customer Service

www.supertorch.eu

Welcome to BLF torchfanatic!

I'm sorry to hear about your case with supertorch.eu :(

Just to add to the case, I had a feeling that I have seen the "flashlight vs. car headlights"-beamshot somewhere. Half an hour of googling and I found it..

The flashlight in the photo is actually M-flare Rebel 90, and the photo is taken by a Finnish flashaholic called "vee73" (a.k.a. taskulamppufriikki)

Here's the original photo (with a link to his site):

Obvious scam and they are also stealing photos. Shame on them. :(

Welcome to the madness, torchfanatic!

Torchfanatic - welcome to BLF.
Yup, but unfortunately you have been scammed :frowning:
Torch - $6-7
*2*x14500 blue, probably, unprotected TF - $3
charger - $3
You can get all that for about 13 bucks (less than 11 Euros) with, of course, cheap, slow chinese shipping (2-3 weeks of waiting). It’s a pity you haven’t found us (BLF) earlier :frowning: Anyway, hope you enjoy your light :slight_smile:
(well, found this “sipik” for 40 bucks :bigsmile: You got for the same price the torch, batt and charger :bigsmile: Good deal :bigsmile: )

lol :bigsmile: Man, you must be crazy to pay that for this stuff :bigsmile: Take a look at the original price :open_mouth:

List Price: $499.99
Price: $90.29
You Save: $409.70 (82%)

I wouldn’t even pay 30 for it :bigsmile:

wow cannot believe a company would go and steal pictures of someone elses beam shot and put it up as their own lol wtf ?

Ya know the spam email people get all the time, that seems utterly unbelievable?

Thing is — it costs them nothing, and they want only the people who will believe that crap.

Same thing about Internet advertising on websites — the only responses they need are the ones they fool right from the start.

It’s a dirty old world.

Yeah its too bad. You could ask to return the product, or just take this as an expensive lesson :frowning:

C3 or C5 or micro-controller, get real its an 8$ USD light, including shipping and the envelope, I really doubt the premium version run, otherwise people would just buy a better light in the first place. Guarantee of 2 years, and they actually reply to your message in english, that’s the guys business to make money and sell at a profit.

On the bright side you found this forum and can now get lots of other great lights for very low prices, half the discussion here is talking about Chinese vendors.

According to their website they have a “reasonable pricing policy.” lol

If you paid by Paypal you could try opening a dispute with them.

Hi, I wish I had seen this site before I bought one of these CF2 torches. http://www.supertorch.eu/en/
It will be a very expensive lesson!

Hello Fat Angus and welcome to BLF ! ! ! :party:

Can you send the Heider back and get a full refund of your money ?

I don’t know if I can send it back at the moment. And the even worse thing is that when the delivery guy turned up with the torch there was an £29.37 import tax to pay at it came from Turkey (or somewhere). I have never had to pay import tax before.

I must be crazy :_(

EDIT: I suppose I could cancel the cheque for the import tax - that was made out to the courier company and see if I can return the torch…

that doesent work out vat is 19%import tax is whatever the decide on the day.but it sounds to me like you payed shipping on delivery,ie twice

Checking the slip, it shows

Duties: £18.38

Other Government Charge £11.00

I’m not sure what all that means…

yeah £11is handling charge+vat+import duty.Without the handling charge it seems about right but still disgusting…

Is there anyway I can return this torch and also get my other charges back?

Let this be a lesson to everyone “Buy in haste, repent at leisure”

Even if you could ,you would probably forfeit the return shipping which would have to b trackable and cost a fare bit

Thanks Jakey, It looks as though I may just have to swallow a very expensive lesson.

On another point.

The LED’s in these kind of Torches must be “driven” very hard so I assume they have a limited life? (Just wondering)

It might be worth finding out how much it will be to send back (tracked). A refund on the light is better than nothing.

Yeah, I would look into cancelling the cheque and sending it back, but you might have to contact the courier about it or face some questions.

You get insurance on basic airmail, so if it gets lost you could claim it back again.

The LEDs are driven quite hard, in the $10 versions at up to 150% of their rated max current. You should still see a good few thousand hours of use out of them though. It’s the battery and circuit that are likely to break first.

Thank you Chloe & RedForest.

I will see if I can send it back and also the carrier about the charges/cheque.

Thank you also for the information about how the LEDs are driven. :wink: