Review: Mini Maglite Pro+

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Now I wish I had the Pro instead of the normal LED..^^

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I haven't owned a mini-mag for years, although I must admit that I do quite like the idea of the P60 mod.

 

This for me has replaced the 2AA maglite:

 

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ultrafire-wf-606a-cree-q5-wc-230-lumen-led-flashlight-with-extension-tube-1-cr2-2-aa-14909

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After having read this review written by BetweenRides, I found a good offer for a Pro+ on eBay; way cheaper than what the online shops were asking for. Intl’ shipping from NY to mainland Europe took some painstakingly slow three weeks, but I am already used to that after years of ordering vintage car parts for my restoration projects from the US.

On to the torch itself – I do like it so much, it has replaced my sand/gold/tan-ano SolarForce L2r which I had been using daily for well over a year. It surely isn’t as bright as the low-volt XP-G dropin in my L2r, but I am already in love with the additional low-mode the M@glite offers. I’m using eneloops and duracell pre-charged NiMH-LSD only.

Then again, I do like long, skinny 2xAA torches as much as the rather stubby 18650 lights; especially for EDC at work. Hands down, a mini-m@g is way easier to carry concealed than a souped-up L2P sporting an A001 head, B2 bezel, and S9 tailcap switch (my other worklight). The Pro+ with its sleek, classic maglite design and beautifully simple belt holster made from nylon webbing blend in nicely with any black suit.

I do not regret buying the Pro+. The beam is a bit ringy, indeed, but I don’t mind; and only notice it at home (perfect, flat white walls at home, as opposed to rubble stone walls and rough sandstone flooring at work)

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Vectrex wrote:

Well, while I like that they brought out a new light, it is still a light with plastic reflector and lens, no current regulation, no clicky and the max output isn’t available the whole runtime, so comparing the Mag with a Jetbeam BA20/Klarus P2A for example isn’t exactly fair. If this light hadn’t the Maglite name and looks… I guess people would not so generously overlook these downsides. It is still a good price point for a Mag. It is more like a “factory modded Mag”, than a brilliant new design. But I understand the sentimental attachment to the host body… even if I would probably not buy it.


The plastic lens I can understand, but it can be replaced and still make the entire flashlight cheaper than many alternatives.

Not sure I agree about the reflector though. As the LED front side doesn’t produce any significant heat, plastic really isn’t any less able than aluminium and just as shiny.

No clicky? Seriously? It’s a twisty, you’d hardly find a clicky on a twisty, even by the “big” high end makers.

Regulation, well it is regulated, just not in a way to produce max lumens all the time. And in fairness is probably a better setup for average Jo. Not too mention most high end compact lights also step down these days too. And you can always switch the MagLite off and on again if you want too, thus regaining max lumens.

I’m not saying it’s the be all and end all, but I’m not sure they are truly negative points either.

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kreisler wrote:

thanks for the review!

 

So the regulation isnt very good? No constant brightness? Chin*se lights have constant brightness regulation! Shocked


It’s regulated to offer the max performance and run time off of alkaline cells. The downside is you’ll see little improvement using lithium primaries or eneloops. But this is all down to the target market and expected customers I guess.

From this review: http://www.led-resource.com/2012/02/mini-maglite-pro-and-proplus-led-fla...

As you can see it has a deliberate step down, after this lithium primaries and eneloops do perform slightly better. However there’s nothing to stop you turning the light off and on again to reset the higher lumen rating.

From this review: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?340108-Nitecore-Explo...(EC1-EC2-EA1-EA2)-Round-up-Review-RUNTIMES-BEAMSHOTS-VIDEO

Just to show as an example, even ‘high end’ lights often use a step down, although they do often then remain at a constant output (but with a lower run time)

And these high end lights on alkaline’s appear to fair far worse than the Mini MagLite does if run on this battery chemistry (which most MagLite owners will be likely too)

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Chicken Drumstick wrote:

 The plastic lens I can understand, but it can be replaced and still make the entire flashlight cheaper than many alternatives. Not sure I agree about the reflector though. As the LED front side doesn't produce any significant heat, plastic really isn't any less able than aluminium and just as shiny.

I pointed out the plastic lens and reflector not because they would melt, but the optical attributes are worse on plastic than on alu/glass... at least with the Mags I have handled. I have seen Mag lenses that were almost blind, because they had a lot of scratches. Are there really cheap (with shipping) glass replacements available?

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No clicky? Seriously? It's a twisty, you'd hardly find a clicky on a twisty, even by the "big" high end makers.

I don't like twisties on anything larger than a 1AAA light. So I surely don't want both mechanisms on one flashlight. What I do like it mode switching via twist action and a seperate  on off clicky. (see Jetbeam BA20/ Klarus P2A/ Fenix E21)

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Regulation, well it is regulated, just not in a way to produce max lumens all the time. And in fairness is probably a better setup for average Jo. Not too mention most high end compact lights also step down these days too. And you can always switch the MagLite off and on again if you want too, thus regaining max lumens. I'm not saying it's the be all and end all, but I'm not sure they are truly negative points either.

Most 2AA lights aren't driven that hard on high, that they can't cope with the heat. On the Maglite it's only step down, because they borrowed an old design. I like it better when the user is in control of which modes his flashlight gonna be in.

Don't get me wrong, I am not here to bash Maglites, but I want their engineers to show us what a modern day Maglite could be like, when they design a new one from the scratch without relying on old hosts and old technologies. They can still keep the simple, clear exterior design principles for the optics to make it a "typical Mag". They sure made enough money to put a little more effort in their development/research facilities.

I own the P2A and 2xE21 and I paid like $26-27 for each while they were on sale. I also own a Solarforce L2R (XR-E 3-mode) and a Romisen RC-N3.

The light runtime tables you posted are 1 AA not 2 AA. Please stick to flashlight of the same class if you want to compare stuff, otherwise it gets really confusing. Regulation and the BA20/P2A is as flat as it can be... also on the E21/E25. So no , it's just not true that the most 2AA have a step down... in fact most haven't.

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I don’t know for certain, but I think the standard ultra clear glass lens that fits the incan Mini Mags will work in the new LED ones. In the UK you can get these for around £4.50

I do see exactly what you are saying and don’t actually disagree, but I can sort of understand why Mag have done what they have.

As for an entire new design, I think the XL100 was pretty radical a few years back, even today nobody else has even gotten close to using an accelerometer in a flashlight in a similar way. In fact the XL100 was arguably a bit too advanced, so the XL200 makes it a less sophisticated but maybe easier to use interface and included variable dimming without the need for a magnetic ring. I still can’t see any other flashlight makers currently producing anything remotely similar or advanced in UI terms, not even the latest Nitecore Sen’s models. (ok some didn’t like the 3AAA setup of the XL’s, but it suited the target market and at the time of launch there weren’t any/many 1AA lights that could match the XL200’s output on AA’s).

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"Don't get me wrong, I am not here to bash Maglites, but I want their engineers to show us what a modern day Maglite could be like, when they design a new one from the scratch without relying on old hosts and old technologies. They can still keep the simple, clear exterior design principles for the optics to make it a "typical Mag". They sure made enough money to put a little more effort in their development/research facilities."

 

I couldn't agree more, Vectrex. I love Maglites, but I really would love to see what they could do if they really tried.

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Does anyone knows a retailer in Europe for the pro+?

I have seen some in USA but too expensive (shipping costs to europe!)

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I have this torch as well as the Jetbeam BA20 and to me the maglite is a much better torch. The only mod I would make is replace the lens with a glass instead of plastic as they can get more scratched up over time, but if you look after it then plastic is OK too.

The Jetbeam is a nice torch but I actually like the beam better on the maglite, I also prefer the twist I don’t like the clicky on the jetbeam it feels strange. I also love the candle mode which is AWESEOME on the maglite. It’s just a very robust every day use torch, one which will last decades easily.

I’d give the maglite pro plus 9 out of 10, and the jetbeam 7 out of 10.

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I wonder why the Pro+ is so scarce?

I’ve been watching for them in Canada, but have yet to see one. I’ve been tempted to order one from the U.S., but they really work you over on postage.

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Never been a fan of the MagLite "Doughnut"  beam patterns.

Glad to see that they are finally catching on and improving the quality of the beam.

Bill – Pacific NW

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