For those who look for decently priced eneloops...

im pretty sure in store the kit looks like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/NIB-Sanyo-Eneloop-Batteries-Charger-Kit-8AA-4AAA-/140432763096?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b271e8d8

and is only 25 bux or so.

xP.1337, that's the one I was headed to pick up tomorrow. The store I went to today was out. So I did a search at Costco.com for Sanyo and it pulled up a couple of choices. This was the most expensive of the group but I saw the C & D adapters. Hmmmmm.........

its funny cause i dont see the cheaper kit on their website at all. costco products never seem to be up to date on the website.

also, im using tenergy D and C batteries, with 10,000mah and 5000 mah capacities respectively. a much better choice over using adapters in my opinion. why waste the space and have to constantly recharge lol

True. Where do you get the C & D cells?

Plus what charger are you using?

I need some D rechargeables and even 9v rechargeables for my smoke alarms.

9V rechargeables aren't a good idea for smoke alarms. AFAIK nobody makes LSD 9V batteries. You'll be charging them every week or two.

9v LSDs:

http://www.amazon.com/Rayovac-Platinum-NiMH-1-Count-Package/dp/B003D7LHIG

http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-Centura-Self-Discharge-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B003MRF9G8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1299407336&sr=1-2

No idea how good they are.

There're probably others, didn't check it thoroughly.

i got the tenergy batteries off ebay.

i use this charger from all-battery: http://www.all-battery.com/tenergyT9688universalcharger01127.aspx

the problem is charge time. that charger will take a VERY long time to charge the ni-mh. if you can get a hobby charger that does ni-mh and charge via that method

seems tenergy now has LSD "Centura". i have premium which i havent recharged yet, cause of its size its still holding a charge in my non-used Maglite 3D

they are only 1000mah less and LSD, man wish i had seen those prior to me buying the Premium ones. Oh well. at least they have nice discharge rates!

Thomas Distributing. And the http://www.thomasdistributing.com/-MAHA-MH-C808M-AA--AAA--C--D-Battery-Charger_p_244.html charger. And li-ions ARE dangerous. Anyone who denies that is-ignorant. The charger is the most crucial part. A good charger will increase the safety. And all cell phone chargers are designed into the phone, and *can't* mess up. You can't unbalance 16 18650's in a cell phone. Try putting 4 LiCo RCR's cells at 5 amp draw, tell me when you come back.

Li-ons aren’t dangerous. Stupid people are. If you discharge LiCo 16340s at 5A you get what you deserve.

IMR and IFR are "safe" and have a higher energy density than NiMH.

I can get a set of four 2500mah Duracell or Energizer for that price. Why go with those 2000mah Eneloops? Are they better in some way? Curious, thanks.

Yes.

The Energizers will have no charge worth mentioning next week. Any Energizer. If you are lucky, next month.

Eneloops are usable out of the box next year....

Eneloops beat most things for actually usable capacity.

There are cheaper alternatives though. I own more than 50 Eneloops so can't say about the alternatives.

The extra capacity isn't worth it unless you plan on using it right away. I had Energizer 2500's and they went bad quick, real quick. Then I went to the Maha PowerEx due to the rave camera site reviews, but they only last a couple of years. I haven't had one Eneloop go bad in the few years I have had them....

From what I understand, Eneloops are more durable when dropped on the floor, so they are less likely to leave you in the dark...

I've bashed my eneloops to hell (they've got dents to prove it) and they're still fine. They also have decent performance under drain.

i have revived alot of "bad" energizers with my tenergy charger. they work reasonably well now, but they are LSD, so i have to charge before use

i have YET to have a single li-ion explode. i use tested and proven chargers, one battery at a time on most chargers and check voltages.

i do not use too many multicell lights either that can over load the batteries if they dont have perfectly matched internal resistance.

there are plenty of threads on how to safely handle li-ions, and ni-cd and ni-mh are just as dangerous. all batteries are, its all about safe handeling procedures.

If you have one explode... well, an explosion is not a leak. One of the mods at CPF had a tailcap explode out of a 2x18650 flashlight (i think), miss his face by a foot, and fly 30 feet out a window, shattering it and landing across the street. Nimh don't explode.

ni-mh can explode if contained. while not as common, its because people generally dont abuse them like we have seen with li-ions

li-ions react with air, therefore the faster burning causes an explosion when contained

the CPF member abused a 3x18650 flashlight. drawing over 5 amps off 3 unbalanced 18650s. its poor practice to leave a battery in a charger overnight, and he payed by breaking his thumb and half his house

a SINGLE CELL li-ion is just as likely to explode (when using quality cells) as any other battery.

(when using quality cells) The only cells I consider "quality" are LG, Panasonic, Sony, etc., and the respective protection circuit makers for them.

I'm pretty sure most people here know about the rare issues with li-on cells after the much publicized sony laptop battery incidents. Its almost like you have a vendetta against lithium cells and are trying to scare people or something lol.

^at least someone sees what i see.

li-ion is still safer than lead acid.

just saying