(In case you’re addressing me but if not here goes anyway……)
Well, on my sample definitely a whiter tint. Not NW by any means.
This review & comments does a pretty good job. FlashPilot’s comments in particular goes into the finer nuances.
I will say this though. In both my X8’s the amount of useable/bright spill is very very impressive considering the amount of throw it still manages to project. The HD2010 for instance (at least my TMart version running on 1x18650), throws impressively no doubt about it - and it should with that size reflector, but comparing it overall to the X8’s spill and throw, I gotta say the X8 is Bad A to the bone and it still doesn’t take a back seat to anything I own in a single-emitter/1x18650. Bottomline is that it’s one helluva light.
You should get one and give us your hands-on impression.
I’ve noticed a small increase in brightness but runtime is really good with two batts.
It gets rather warm after several minutes but not too hot to hold. Very happy with this torch overall.
Yes. It’s brighter than ANY single XM-L I own. It’s over 1,000 lumens to start. To beat it, you’d have to go up to something like a TN31. It is bright white, leaning a bit blue. And it holds pace nicely with my 1,365 lumen Stanley Halogen spotlight. You can barely tell that the Stanley is brighter. The 980L is right behind it, but with the size of the pill on that thing, I don’t think we should expect any single-banger XM-L to overtake the X8. You need to own it. It’s one of a kind.
Running it on one cell puts it in direct drive, but it will be much less bright (maybe 630 lumens) and will dim when used. With two cells, it is regulated and screaming bright and barely even gets warm. The only thing I hate about it is how easy any little touch of the button will knock it to the next mode.
I don’t think they do. But email them and they’ll usually give you the PP address. They don’t want people to use it because it somehow comes out less in their currency or something.
If I am not mistaken, PP had a beef with Aliexpress some time ago and they pulled their service from their site. Something to do with buyers complaints.
The Xin is smaller, lighter, and doesn’t have capability of running 2x18650. But you know all that regurgitation.
Bright-wise, I’d say it’s 120 to 150 lumens dimmer, doesn’t have quite the throw or spill of the X8 nor does it have quite as deep a reflector (should that be of any consequence to your decision) and definitely doesn’t have the defensive attributes the X8 has. The X8 can become a seriously effective club with that head weight and extra length. The Xin with NW and mode selection option at purchase are great features so I think it boils down to tint and initial mode setup vs X8 flat-out power, spill, throw, and runtime. Heat-sink efficiency wise, I’d say the X8 has the edge because of that massive pill.
The X8 has user-settable mode memory. You want it to always start on low, you can make it start on low. High, strobe, whatever strokes ya. The Xin doesn’t have user-settable mode memory. This is one feature I really like about the X8.
The Xin IMO is a close contender, a wonderful light in of itself, and quality-wise it’s right there with the X8, but ultimately it’s no X8. I would get both. And I did mainly because I like NW in a quality package. :bigsmile:
Bought an almost identical light to this one about 18 months ago, only difference seems to be that mine has no extension tube, (came as a twin engined) and no extra bits and pieces.
Cost about $38, (£24 in REAL money, lol)
Still quite a few around ebay even cheaper these days!!.
Can confirm its an excellent thrower, probably as good as a 2010, I might take them out tonight for a comparison.