The TrustFire X8 I have been waiting for has arrived.....................

brighter than a HD2010?

How’s tint on your sample?

how is the x8 compared to the x6 or x7 or x9?

(In case you’re addressing me but if not here goes anyway……)

Well, on my sample definitely a whiter tint. Not NW by any means.

This review & comments does a pretty good job. FlashPilot’s comments in particular goes into the finer nuances.

I will say this though. In both my X8’s the amount of useable/bright spill is very very impressive considering the amount of throw it still manages to project. The HD2010 for instance (at least my TMart version running on 1x18650), throws impressively no doubt about it - and it should with that size reflector, but comparing it overall to the X8’s spill and throw, I gotta say the X8 is Bad A to the bone and it still doesn’t take a back seat to anything I own in a single-emitter/1x18650. Bottomline is that it’s one helluva light.

You should get one and give us your hands-on impression.

does the second battery make it brighter or does it just add run time?

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I’ve noticed a small increase in brightness but runtime is really good with two batts.
It gets rather warm after several minutes but not too hot to hold. Very happy with this torch overall.

Yes. It’s brighter than ANY single XM-L I own. It’s over 1,000 lumens to start. To beat it, you’d have to go up to something like a TN31. It is bright white, leaning a bit blue. And it holds pace nicely with my 1,365 lumen Stanley Halogen spotlight. You can barely tell that the Stanley is brighter. The 980L is right behind it, but with the size of the pill on that thing, I don’t think we should expect any single-banger XM-L to overtake the X8. You need to own it. It’s one of a kind.

Running it on one cell puts it in direct drive, but it will be much less bright (maybe 630 lumens) and will dim when used. With two cells, it is regulated and screaming bright and barely even gets warm. The only thing I hate about it is how easy any little touch of the button will knock it to the next mode.

It looks like this aliexpress place doesn’t take Paypal? Or maybe I’m blind.

I don’t think they do. But email them and they’ll usually give you the PP address. They don’t want people to use it because it somehow comes out less in their currency or something.

If I am not mistaken, PP had a beef with Aliexpress some time ago and they pulled their service from their site. Something to do with buyers complaints.

Thinking of getting this, but also the XinTD in NW. This light looks better, but I find I choose to grab warmer lights when using them.

How do these two compare other than tint??

That's just half the story. Maybe less. The real reason is that Aliexpress takes business away from daddy eBay.

The Xin is smaller, lighter, and doesn’t have capability of running 2x18650. But you know all that regurgitation.

Bright-wise, I’d say it’s 120 to 150 lumens dimmer, doesn’t have quite the throw or spill of the X8 nor does it have quite as deep a reflector (should that be of any consequence to your decision) and definitely doesn’t have the defensive attributes the X8 has. The X8 can become a seriously effective club with that head weight and extra length. The Xin with NW and mode selection option at purchase are great features so I think it boils down to tint and initial mode setup vs X8 flat-out power, spill, throw, and runtime. Heat-sink efficiency wise, I’d say the X8 has the edge because of that massive pill.

The X8 has user-settable mode memory. You want it to always start on low, you can make it start on low. High, strobe, whatever strokes ya. The Xin doesn’t have user-settable mode memory. This is one feature I really like about the X8.

The Xin IMO is a close contender, a wonderful light in of itself, and quality-wise it’s right there with the X8, but ultimately it’s no X8. I would get both. And I did mainly because I like NW in a quality package. :bigsmile:

Others I’m sure will chime in.

My Xeno G42 u2 is just a little bit brighter than my X8

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Bought an almost identical light to this one about 18 months ago, only difference seems to be that mine has no extension tube, (came as a twin engined) and no extra bits and pieces.
Cost about $38, (£24 in REAL money, lol)
Still quite a few around ebay even cheaper these days!!.
Can confirm its an excellent thrower, probably as good as a 2010, I might take them out tonight for a comparison.

>>>>>>If I am not mistaken, PP had a beef with Aliexpress some time ago and
>>>>>>they pulled their service from their site. Something to do with buyers complaints.

Well I ordered using a CC, but not something I feel comfortable with. Not saying that aliexpress are/is crooks. It’s just so easy for someone to swipe CC numbers and put them to nasty use. These web sites have NO security. (I know because I have built 100s of these sites and been a consultant on 100s more.) If you knew what security was like on these sites, you would never use a CC online again. For example, many web sites test their cart apps with REAL credit-card numbers to make sure they work properly. Inevitably, a few fake purchases would end up going through to MC or Visa and the client wouldn’t cancel them in time. Voila! The unsuspecting CC holder ends up “purchasing” an air compressor, a new laptop or who knows what else.

Nah, ebay isn’t blocking aliexpress or anyone else from using PP. Paypal is used as the cart tool on thousands — possibly MILLIONS — of sites. But for Paypal to take away Paypal from a web site — NOT good. They really have to royally sc*ew up and be involved in fraud or non-delivery or who-knows-what. Aliexpress is missing out on thousands of bucks in sales by not using PP, so they really must have messed up bad. Which means they are still messing up probably. And no way will they ever give you a straight answer about what really happened. Becuase of privacy issues, PP will never tell the general public why they pulled PP from a particular site. If they decide to turn down a purchase, they won’t even tell the vendor why they turned it down — Just that it was turned down. Which is exactly how it should be.

Despite all the baloney you hear about ’em, PP really is a high-class outfit. They have one of the best in-house security teams in the world. It rivals or beats many CC companies.

Well, I hope my CC number doesn’t end up on a list and being sold, what usually happens with stolen CC numbers. China is a hotbed for this. I used a special low-balance CC that I keep for dicey web purchases like this. I just get a new one if something goes wrong — and it has in the past.

Why buy an ‘almost identical’ clone when ya can get the real deal TrustFire for less? The difference is in the details. So when you fire up that clone X8 against the 2010 it’s not really apples to apples. It’s a clone apple to prolly against another clone apple. There are a bunch of clone X8’s out there. Buyer beware. The Aliexpress seller that sold mine sells the real deal.

Just sayin’………

Well this complicates my decision making. Was pretty set on a HD2010, but now I am rethinking it with this X8 deal.

Not exactly sure why, but I think I like the look of the X8 better. That is not really priority criteria though. The dual cell extension tube is a plus.

If this really is Rey of BLF Mini GB fame I would feel comfortable buying, but I would still try to use paypal.