If I am not mistaken, PP had a beef with Aliexpress some time ago and they pulled their service from their site. Something to do with buyers complaints.
Thinking of getting this, but also the XinTD in NW. This light looks better, but I find I choose to grab warmer lights when using them.
How do these two compare other than tint??
That's just half the story. Maybe less. The real reason is that Aliexpress takes business away from daddy eBay.
The Xin is smaller, lighter, and doesn’t have capability of running 2x18650. But you know all that regurgitation.
Bright-wise, I’d say it’s 120 to 150 lumens dimmer, doesn’t have quite the throw or spill of the X8 nor does it have quite as deep a reflector (should that be of any consequence to your decision) and definitely doesn’t have the defensive attributes the X8 has. The X8 can become a seriously effective club with that head weight and extra length. The Xin with NW and mode selection option at purchase are great features so I think it boils down to tint and initial mode setup vs X8 flat-out power, spill, throw, and runtime. Heat-sink efficiency wise, I’d say the X8 has the edge because of that massive pill.
The X8 has user-settable mode memory. You want it to always start on low, you can make it start on low. High, strobe, whatever strokes ya. The Xin doesn’t have user-settable mode memory. This is one feature I really like about the X8.
The Xin IMO is a close contender, a wonderful light in of itself, and quality-wise it’s right there with the X8, but ultimately it’s no X8. I would get both. And I did mainly because I like NW in a quality package. :bigsmile:
Others I’m sure will chime in.
My Xeno G42 u2 is just a little bit brighter than my X8
Bought an almost identical light to this one about 18 months ago, only difference seems to be that mine has no extension tube, (came as a twin engined) and no extra bits and pieces.
Cost about $38, (£24 in REAL money, lol)
Still quite a few around ebay even cheaper these days!!.
Can confirm its an excellent thrower, probably as good as a 2010, I might take them out tonight for a comparison.
>>>>>>If I am not mistaken, PP had a beef with Aliexpress some time ago and
>>>>>>they pulled their service from their site. Something to do with buyers complaints.
Well I ordered using a CC, but not something I feel comfortable with. Not saying that aliexpress are/is crooks. It’s just so easy for someone to swipe CC numbers and put them to nasty use. These web sites have NO security. (I know because I have built 100s of these sites and been a consultant on 100s more.) If you knew what security was like on these sites, you would never use a CC online again. For example, many web sites test their cart apps with REAL credit-card numbers to make sure they work properly. Inevitably, a few fake purchases would end up going through to MC or Visa and the client wouldn’t cancel them in time. Voila! The unsuspecting CC holder ends up “purchasing” an air compressor, a new laptop or who knows what else.
Nah, ebay isn’t blocking aliexpress or anyone else from using PP. Paypal is used as the cart tool on thousands — possibly MILLIONS — of sites. But for Paypal to take away Paypal from a web site — NOT good. They really have to royally sc*ew up and be involved in fraud or non-delivery or who-knows-what. Aliexpress is missing out on thousands of bucks in sales by not using PP, so they really must have messed up bad. Which means they are still messing up probably. And no way will they ever give you a straight answer about what really happened. Becuase of privacy issues, PP will never tell the general public why they pulled PP from a particular site. If they decide to turn down a purchase, they won’t even tell the vendor why they turned it down — Just that it was turned down. Which is exactly how it should be.
Despite all the baloney you hear about ’em, PP really is a high-class outfit. They have one of the best in-house security teams in the world. It rivals or beats many CC companies.
Well, I hope my CC number doesn’t end up on a list and being sold, what usually happens with stolen CC numbers. China is a hotbed for this. I used a special low-balance CC that I keep for dicey web purchases like this. I just get a new one if something goes wrong — and it has in the past.
Why buy an ‘almost identical’ clone when ya can get the real deal TrustFire for less? The difference is in the details. So when you fire up that clone X8 against the 2010 it’s not really apples to apples. It’s a clone apple to prolly against another clone apple. There are a bunch of clone X8’s out there. Buyer beware. The Aliexpress seller that sold mine sells the real deal.
Just sayin’………
Well this complicates my decision making. Was pretty set on a HD2010, but now I am rethinking it with this X8 deal.
Not exactly sure why, but I think I like the look of the X8 better. That is not really priority criteria though. The dual cell extension tube is a plus.
If this really is Rey of BLF Mini GB fame I would feel comfortable buying, but I would still try to use paypal.
Purchasing the X8 from DX, you are getting a genuine Trustfire. Mine is exceptionally well made. Very well packaged with the Trustfire box as well.
Any U2 driven properly will have an advantage for sure.
I have nothing against DX, but I am not too big on aliexpress. Rey however seems to be a stand-up seller.
something. His outfit has top connections enabling them to obtain genuine TrustFire products and only genuine TF products. That’s real important to know. Because TF makes the best X8’s, period. Lot’s of substandard X8 clones out there. Buyer beware.
Just sayin’……
>>>>>His outfit has top connections enabling them to
>>>>>>obtain genuine TrustFire products and only genuine TF products.
So which is his outfit, so I can order and be assured of getting the real thing? I am so sick of fakes and clones that vary from one buyer’s review to the next. It would be incredible to order knowing I would be getting a +REAL+ TF product.
Right here.
Btw, they raised the price up by about $3 because now they’re shipping via DHL. 7-10 delivery and much more secure.
It’s worth it.
Also, people have a concern that they don’t offer PayPal. Don’t be concerned. Here’s why.
You prolly know this but in case ya don’t…….
When you order for instance from Rey’s business through Aliexpress they don’t get their money until you receive the item and are satisfied with it. IOW, payment to them is withheld in a form of ‘escrow’ whereby you the Buyer really have complete control over your payment which is ultimately subject to your satisfaction. If you aren’t satisfied they are incentivized to make it right so they can get paid. It’s a fair system and IMO just as solid as PayPal’s. If you’re concerned about your CC, then I would suggest whenever possible order it on your lowest limit card if that makes you feel a little better. You won’t have any problem though. Aliexpress doesn’t mess around with any of this sort of shenanigans either.
I bought that light a week or so ago. I should have been clearer. Since he is selling reall TF stuff, is there some way to see his other lights?
>>>>>Also, people have a concern that they don’t offer PayPal. Don’t be concerned. Here’s why.
I respectfully disagree, and but I don’t want to start an argument … Over the past 12 years, I have helped design and worked as a consultant on MANY multi-million-buck web sites. If you believe ANYTHING any web site has to say about how they handle transaction money, I have a bridge for you to buy. 
Just because a site says they do something doesn’t mean they do anything like that.
No site is going to come out and say: “Our security practices are ridiculously bad, but go ahead and take a chance anyway. Who knows, you may get what you ordered.”
The stuff I have seen BIG-DEAL web sites do with CC numbers and your supposedly “secure” data would curl your hair. Nah, forget curl. It would cause your hair to stand straight up and fall out. It’s not so much that they’re crooks, it’s just that they don’t care. I have seen many many sites where just about anyone in the organization — from page designers to ad staff — can easily DIRECTLY access all CC info.
I know. I know. Who is this ubehebe guy? He’s probably making it all up. All I can say is that I’m not making it up.
Paypal is pretty foolproof because they prevent merchants from seeing your CC info, BUT people forget that it’s easy for any employee with a rudimentary understanding of various shopping carts to scrape your PP info as it is submitted, ending up with your PP account name and password, all they need to efectively drain your account. Fortunately, PP has a crack fraud team who immediately flags any strange account activity and can trace it back to the offending site. However, the crooks can keep a low profile and drain a few accounts here and there and escape detection pretty well.
Still, I think, PP is the safest online payment method. And because PP is the defacto online payment standard, if a site doesn’t take PP, there is a reason for that, and that reason is NOT good. They either got PP cut off or PP wouldn’t let them use PP. In other words, they were ripping people off in some way. PP wants to make money too. It’s not exactly easy to get bounced outta PP.
I took the chance and ordered the light, but I think people should be aware of the risk and go into it knowing that 6 months from now, their CC could end up filled with weird charges. You’re right, if you reserve one low-balance CC for online purchases, you’re pretty safe.
And I totally agree so no argument from this guy. 8) The only reason I feel pretty comfortable with this is because of Rey’s involvement. I think anytime anyone puts their CC info out there PP or not, we’re taking a risk regardless of crack fraud teams etc. I guess we really have to monitor our CC charges for this sort of stuff across the board. Makes me kinda nervous but that’s the way it is unfortunately. Nothing in this world is 100% when it involves humans. lol
Speaking of other TrustFire lights, I plan to ask Rey about some others like the X100. I already have one but I’m considering getting another if his pricing is decent. One thing I do know for sure, it will be a genuine TF and that’s the most important detail to me.
DHL GLOBAL MAIL was not that fast:7-10 days,
approx 10 days to Germany, around 15 days to other countries,
will not reject anything like China Air Mail.
Just have a new offer, 2pcs, 68.8$,3 days shipping DHL free to USA(only).
I’m really trying to resist here. 8)
Btw, why is China mail rejecting packages often these days to the U.S.?
I had an X100 from a different supplier that was sent back to Singapore which delayed arrival to me by almost a month.
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