Didn't evacuate as told ? Quit crying for help.

I agree with you on all accounts. I am sick and tired of hearing people scream for the government to wipe their collective @sses when they poop their shorts. They decided not to evacuate when they were told to, so they need to live with that horrible decision and STFU. Who knows, maybe they figured on some easy looting if they hung back and let everyone else leave.

Yes - pretty bad, but I wasn't told to evacuate, have no power, no heat and can't get gas. Hhhmmm......

Also when you pay the big $$$ and get that home on the bay, river or ocean. Paid millions, and your net worth is in the 10's of millions, then you get your gov assistance of couple hundred K, that's disgusting... Of course I know people on the water whose homes are worth the .75 to 1.5 mill but are having a tough time paying their bills. There's always 2 sides...

yeah I agree…if you are told to get out and choose not to then you accept the consequences of your actions…people hate being responsible when they make a dumb choice…deal with it…

I agree 100%. There is tragedy in this world, and it can never be completely avoided. And if you fail to take certain precautions, only you can be blamed for your sad state. It's disgusting to see so many people demand the help of others simply because they are in need -- but I despise the morality of need.

Unfortunately government sponsored flood insurance programs help remove the incentive for people to consider the dangers of where they live. It's sad when people try to ignore the laws of nature.

Welcome to the USA, where you can burn your croth with hot coffee and sue the one who sold it to you.

No, seriously. People dont want to be responsible. They dont want to listen, they dont want to know.

I think 36hours are pretty good. Remember Thailand?

This is similar to a women over here, her young son got on a bus to the airport, got through to a plane and got picked up in Europe. Frantic 24hts for the mother, but guess who was the one person the mother didn’t blame?

I agree that if people were told to evacuate and chose to ignore it, they only have themselves to blame, I also believe from the news we have seen over here that the government is doing all they can.

What does bug me is the continued reports of this being “the worst storm in history”, I guess 1800 dead in New Orleans does not count……

I don’t disagree. But, I understand and still feel for the people who made mistakes.

Have a sister who lost 2 homes and 2 businesses to Ike with no help from FEMA because they (formerly) had too much. All of their property and customers were spread across a wide swath by a wall of water. They had no where to go but family and find a new life elsewhere. I’m sure glad they evacuated because they didn’t during Katrina.

NY population, city, and state all appear to have handled the disaster very poorly versus what they saw in TX.

Very stupid IMO not to evacuate when told.
Yet again, I would not mind my charity pennies to go for people in the biggest need - no matter how stupid they are….

A little common sense goes a long way,those who were told to leave should have listened.An absolute tragedy that worker died because of stupidity of others.I saw an 8year old boy was killed by a falling tree and an elerly couple as well as well as many other stories that make you wonder why people make poor choices.I can not get over the fact of how many people think the world owes them something,they are sadly mistaken.Some tragedies are self inflicted and avoidable.If it were my family,I would have heeded warnings and brought them to a safe place.

From a none USA resisdent looking in.
What i think STINKS ,Lack of outside of the USA support[International support],i havent read or noticed any .International help,be it moneys or releif.An International disaster fund.Seems pritty standard reaction when countries are hit hard for the International community to help.Seems weird to me ther isnt any other than the expected agencys like the red cross doing ther great work…The USA is usually first inline helping others in disasters.Seems good form for others to help the USA.Im sure if 10million £ was raised by outside countries/charitys and given to the borough of queens[lets say] it would help.

As for the folks that stayed.I get the stop moaning and you made your bed so lie in it,but ther humans in need,ther part of the disaster surely.They Will need more help than most.
DON… hope thats ok now :slight_smile:

Don.. your posts really lack structure.. and proper spelling.

I dont quite understand your point tho. I dont think the USA need help from any other country. Only a small part is affected and help from other parts of the USA will be there much faster than from other countries. I'm sure they would get help if needed.

a damned sore point with me. Anyone refusing mandatory evacuation, should get no assistance or help from emergency services during the disaster. NONE. People do not want to take responsibility for themselves any more and that is WRONG. You may say it is not, but it is wrong, wrong, wrong! I am so sick and tired of people doing whatever they feel like, with no responsibility for themselves or their families and then crying for help and if they don't get it.... It's all the world who's at fault, but not theirs. I would personally like to... never mind. I'm old school and brought up in a different world than this one. I don't fit in & don't belong to it any more.

If you decided to stay, then take your beating quietly. You asked for it.

I, on the other hand feel that even if people complain about these services they should still receive help. These are human lives and we are not living in the age where natural selection exists. We should protect other people because they are like you and me - only desperate and unable to cope with their emotions of fear and loss.
On the brighter side, if less people die, there is less mourning.
But having never worked in service before I do not know what it is like to have people berating me 24/7. I know it’s easy to say, but when it comes down to human lives no expense should be spared to save them.

The NYC Marathon has been cancelled. At least symbolism is still alive.

If you have nowhere to go or nothing to transport you, what can be done when you should still evacuate?
Is there public transportation to some shelters in safer area or how does it work?

An area a few miles from me was evacuated and they had buses running to a emergency shelter that had a generator.

While we're talking about Sandy if anyone has any info on Cone (other than name/email) please PM me. A number of us have been trying to track him down to make sure he's alright as he hasn't logged onto BLF or EDCF since monday night. (When he abruptly stopped replying to a conversation I was having with him)

All's good with Cone, they lost power but they have plenty of supplies to last it out. A house near them still has power, heat, and running water so they have been going over there. The house is fine so Cone is doing fine. :D

Has everyone that regularly posts here from that region been accounted for?

IDK, Gnarly just told me he is on the phone with Cone’s wife. I’ll update as soon as I get more info. :smiley:

Edit: Updated my posts a few posts above this one. :D