Didn't evacuate as told ? Quit crying for help.

Unfortunately government sponsored flood insurance programs help remove the incentive for people to consider the dangers of where they live. It's sad when people try to ignore the laws of nature.

Welcome to the USA, where you can burn your croth with hot coffee and sue the one who sold it to you.

No, seriously. People dont want to be responsible. They dont want to listen, they dont want to know.

I think 36hours are pretty good. Remember Thailand?

This is similar to a women over here, her young son got on a bus to the airport, got through to a plane and got picked up in Europe. Frantic 24hts for the mother, but guess who was the one person the mother didn’t blame?

I agree that if people were told to evacuate and chose to ignore it, they only have themselves to blame, I also believe from the news we have seen over here that the government is doing all they can.

What does bug me is the continued reports of this being “the worst storm in history”, I guess 1800 dead in New Orleans does not count……

I don’t disagree. But, I understand and still feel for the people who made mistakes.

Have a sister who lost 2 homes and 2 businesses to Ike with no help from FEMA because they (formerly) had too much. All of their property and customers were spread across a wide swath by a wall of water. They had no where to go but family and find a new life elsewhere. I’m sure glad they evacuated because they didn’t during Katrina.

NY population, city, and state all appear to have handled the disaster very poorly versus what they saw in TX.

Very stupid IMO not to evacuate when told.
Yet again, I would not mind my charity pennies to go for people in the biggest need - no matter how stupid they are….

A little common sense goes a long way,those who were told to leave should have listened.An absolute tragedy that worker died because of stupidity of others.I saw an 8year old boy was killed by a falling tree and an elerly couple as well as well as many other stories that make you wonder why people make poor choices.I can not get over the fact of how many people think the world owes them something,they are sadly mistaken.Some tragedies are self inflicted and avoidable.If it were my family,I would have heeded warnings and brought them to a safe place.

From a none USA resisdent looking in.
What i think STINKS ,Lack of outside of the USA support[International support],i havent read or noticed any .International help,be it moneys or releif.An International disaster fund.Seems pritty standard reaction when countries are hit hard for the International community to help.Seems weird to me ther isnt any other than the expected agencys like the red cross doing ther great work…The USA is usually first inline helping others in disasters.Seems good form for others to help the USA.Im sure if 10million £ was raised by outside countries/charitys and given to the borough of queens[lets say] it would help.

As for the folks that stayed.I get the stop moaning and you made your bed so lie in it,but ther humans in need,ther part of the disaster surely.They Will need more help than most.
DON… hope thats ok now :slight_smile:

Don.. your posts really lack structure.. and proper spelling.

I dont quite understand your point tho. I dont think the USA need help from any other country. Only a small part is affected and help from other parts of the USA will be there much faster than from other countries. I'm sure they would get help if needed.

a damned sore point with me. Anyone refusing mandatory evacuation, should get no assistance or help from emergency services during the disaster. NONE. People do not want to take responsibility for themselves any more and that is WRONG. You may say it is not, but it is wrong, wrong, wrong! I am so sick and tired of people doing whatever they feel like, with no responsibility for themselves or their families and then crying for help and if they don't get it.... It's all the world who's at fault, but not theirs. I would personally like to... never mind. I'm old school and brought up in a different world than this one. I don't fit in & don't belong to it any more.

If you decided to stay, then take your beating quietly. You asked for it.

I, on the other hand feel that even if people complain about these services they should still receive help. These are human lives and we are not living in the age where natural selection exists. We should protect other people because they are like you and me - only desperate and unable to cope with their emotions of fear and loss.
On the brighter side, if less people die, there is less mourning.
But having never worked in service before I do not know what it is like to have people berating me 24/7. I know it’s easy to say, but when it comes down to human lives no expense should be spared to save them.

The NYC Marathon has been cancelled. At least symbolism is still alive.

If you have nowhere to go or nothing to transport you, what can be done when you should still evacuate?
Is there public transportation to some shelters in safer area or how does it work?

An area a few miles from me was evacuated and they had buses running to a emergency shelter that had a generator.

While we're talking about Sandy if anyone has any info on Cone (other than name/email) please PM me. A number of us have been trying to track him down to make sure he's alright as he hasn't logged onto BLF or EDCF since monday night. (When he abruptly stopped replying to a conversation I was having with him)

All's good with Cone, they lost power but they have plenty of supplies to last it out. A house near them still has power, heat, and running water so they have been going over there. The house is fine so Cone is doing fine. :D

Has everyone that regularly posts here from that region been accounted for?

IDK, Gnarly just told me he is on the phone with Cone’s wife. I’ll update as soon as I get more info. :smiley:

Edit: Updated my posts a few posts above this one. :D

Workers were understandably upset about getting tasked to prepare the area for a marathon instead of helping those in need. Some hoteliers have already refused to honor reservations for marathoners if any local resident needed their room for temporary lodging.

Well said JMac!

Well, I wouldn’t have used those exact words but I absolutely agree with you, JohnnyMac. We live in a world where this attitude is increasingly commonplace, unfortunately.
One thing that was drummed into me ever since I was a young ’un is, “the world doesn’t owe you a living”. We owe it to ourselves and others to take responsibility for our actions. Always.

every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

While I agree in principle that people should evacuate when told, I also know there can be many reasons why some people won’t do so, foolish as that may seem to others. And it isn’t just a matter or some won’t leave, some cannot, or feel they cannot.

In a disaster of this scale, there will be casualties. It is pretty much unavoidable. Whether it is unacceptable to ask emergency teams to help them is probably not for us to say. I think is is standard protocol not to place such teams in immediate danger, but I am sure many would volunteer to do so themselves.

What matters most now is getting on with the cleanup, helping those affected to put their lives back in order and doing what we can to help, and to make sure if possible that in the future we will do a better job.

Sure, mistakes were, are and will be made. Hopefully we can learn something from that.

Sandy was a much larger storm than Katrina, but there has been a tiny number of casualties in comparison. One is too many, but less than 75 so far is nothing short of a miracle in the circumstances.

Please, let us not be angry at others, but thankful for what we have and those who were spared.