Don.. your posts really lack structure.. and proper spelling.
I dont quite understand your point tho. I dont think the USA need help from any other country. Only a small part is affected and help from other parts of the USA will be there much faster than from other countries. I'm sure they would get help if needed.
a damned sore point with me. Anyone refusing mandatory evacuation, should get no assistance or help from emergency services during the disaster. NONE. People do not want to take responsibility for themselves any more and that is WRONG. You may say it is not, but it is wrong, wrong, wrong! I am so sick and tired of people doing whatever they feel like, with no responsibility for themselves or their families and then crying for help and if they don't get it.... It's all the world who's at fault, but not theirs. I would personally like to... never mind. I'm old school and brought up in a different world than this one. I don't fit in & don't belong to it any more.
If you decided to stay, then take your beating quietly. You asked for it.
I, on the other hand feel that even if people complain about these services they should still receive help. These are human lives and we are not living in the age where natural selection exists. We should protect other people because they are like you and me - only desperate and unable to cope with their emotions of fear and loss.
On the brighter side, if less people die, there is less mourning.
But having never worked in service before I do not know what it is like to have people berating me 24/7. I know it’s easy to say, but when it comes down to human lives no expense should be spared to save them.
The NYC Marathon has been cancelled. At least symbolism is still alive.
If you have nowhere to go or nothing to transport you, what can be done when you should still evacuate?
Is there public transportation to some shelters in safer area or how does it work?
An area a few miles from me was evacuated and they had buses running to a emergency shelter that had a generator.
While we're talking about Sandy if anyone has any info on Cone (other than name/email) please PM me. A number of us have been trying to track him down to make sure he's alright as he hasn't logged onto BLF or EDCF since monday night. (When he abruptly stopped replying to a conversation I was having with him)
All's good with Cone, they lost power but they have plenty of supplies to last it out. A house near them still has power, heat, and running water so they have been going over there. The house is fine so Cone is doing fine. :D
Has everyone that regularly posts here from that region been accounted for?
IDK, Gnarly just told me he is on the phone with Cone’s wife. I’ll update as soon as I get more info. 
Edit: Updated my posts a few posts above this one. :D
Workers were understandably upset about getting tasked to prepare the area for a marathon instead of helping those in need. Some hoteliers have already refused to honor reservations for marathoners if any local resident needed their room for temporary lodging.
Well said JMac!
Well, I wouldn’t have used those exact words but I absolutely agree with you, JohnnyMac. We live in a world where this attitude is increasingly commonplace, unfortunately.
One thing that was drummed into me ever since I was a young ’un is, “the world doesn’t owe you a living”. We owe it to ourselves and others to take responsibility for our actions. Always.
every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
While I agree in principle that people should evacuate when told, I also know there can be many reasons why some people won’t do so, foolish as that may seem to others. And it isn’t just a matter or some won’t leave, some cannot, or feel they cannot.
In a disaster of this scale, there will be casualties. It is pretty much unavoidable. Whether it is unacceptable to ask emergency teams to help them is probably not for us to say. I think is is standard protocol not to place such teams in immediate danger, but I am sure many would volunteer to do so themselves.
What matters most now is getting on with the cleanup, helping those affected to put their lives back in order and doing what we can to help, and to make sure if possible that in the future we will do a better job.
Sure, mistakes were, are and will be made. Hopefully we can learn something from that.
Sandy was a much larger storm than Katrina, but there has been a tiny number of casualties in comparison. One is too many, but less than 75 so far is nothing short of a miracle in the circumstances.
Please, let us not be angry at others, but thankful for what we have and those who were spared.
With the looting the occurred after Katrina, I could empathize with those that were reluctant to abandon their homes.
The personal responsibility issue extends to those that built their homes in storm prone areas without adequate insurance. It's even worse for the expensive homes. Their insurance is the federal government.
fucked
They know that area is prown to weather problems. If they choose to live there it is ON Their OWN dime! Why should we pay to clean up for their problems? We pay higher insurance on our homes to clean up their mess?
They were told to leave and they stayed.
I once lived where tornadoes were comon, then moved solved my own problem!
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People bitch when under stress and their world is turned upside down. It ain't pretty when humans come "unglued". I can cut them some slack. I just looked in the mirror...and didn't see perfect.
People even bitch about other people bitchin'. Go figure. It's human nature.
Staten Island, by the way....it's an entirely different universe there. The normal rules of logic don't apply. No offense intended to SI'ers.
Yes, that would work. NY is not such a safe place to live, we think you should all go live somewhere else…
Here is the reason, or so the article says
Thanks for the comments and varying viewpoints.
There has been support, either pledged or actual, from other countries - as was there after Katrina.
Longtime allies, such as the U.K., Germany, and Australia have offered their help, with Australia's assistance package to be in the $10Mil USD range, IIRC.
Some pledges will be turned down, as was the generous Bangladeshi-offered assistance of $1Mil USD, after Katrina. In addition, the offer of 'assistance' from groups such as the Taliban's is not welcome here.
I was very impressed in the insistence of the New York officials that pets would be welcomed to evac shelters. This lack of a similar response was a noted factor in past storm evacuations.
survival of the fittest, (and smartest). Times like these will only make for a brighter future.
one thing that bothers me is how New Jersey wont let non-union companies in to help with cleanup and restoration of power. It wont be reported on mainstream joke of a media we have here though. Utility crews drving in from all over told to go home or sign union paperwork. What a corrupt joke the state/federal govt is.