no way they’re chris reeve knives, no way they’re anywhere near close to the quality, and for that money you can buy a heck of a knife that is real. they’re probably decent, sanrenmu, etc. quality knives, and they should be $15 or less.
If I planned to buy a fake Chris Reeve knife, I would buy this one:
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Having owned half a dozen Real CR knives, the ones are Ali are fakes. CR is an American company that builds their knives in the USA. You are not going to get a “deal” on one by buying from China like you might from a USA company that has their product made in China.
If China is making knives for Buck and CRKT, it stands to reason that you might get a unbranded or even the real version for a discount. There is no reason to think China would import expensive CR knives at $300-400 a pop and then sell them for $99. You got to use your brain a little. I know most people don’t think these are real CR knives but I wanted to show people why they can’t possibly be real. I know there are a few people out there thinking maybe they can get a CR or a Falkniven for a huge discount but China can’t get them any cheaper than we can.
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Maybe one of you guy should inform Chris Reeves and Aliexpress.
Aliexpress is an American company.
No, Aliexpress is not an American Company. It’s part of the Alibabagroup (taobao is another part) which is Chinese (only 20% owned by Yahoo - 80% owned by Chinese).
Chris Reeve has always expressed a continuing desire to be informed of knock-off/fake Sebenzas. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to shoot Lisa an email.
These are blatant rip offs. They use his name and trademark.
Just sent him an email with a link to the listing and this discussion.
Scaru,
Thanks for informing CR. I saw those knives and immediately knew they were total phonies. I’ve seen real Sebenza’s, can’t afford one but I certainly don’t support piracy/knock-offs. I agree w/ Speedsix, most of us know they’re fakes but there are many folks that will buy one thinking they’ve scored a huge savings.
Scaru thanks for sending an email as well.
After a little more poking around on that site it looks like Rick Hinderer is being knocked off as well.
Piracy aside, these ripoffs certainly look the part, wow.
i think is the model number, is a knife i read about here on blf. it is a “clone” of the hinderer xm-18 (i think that is the model), right down to the slotted pivot screw. it doesn’t say hinderer though, it says inron. it sells for around $20, or less. those are two big advantages over ripping off the name and selling for $70. they (the inrons) are pretty good knives, probably very good when you consider the price, and worth it. $70 for an obvious fake with a counterfeit name is definitely, positively not.
what mean is i think is it is probably okay to produce an homage/clone/copy if you put your name on, it but not at all okay to represent an item as authentic if it is not. in a case like this it is even more so, because it would take anyone who has owned or handled a chris reeve knife approximately one second to tell the difference.
budget lights and chrise reeve knives go together like a tall glass of milk and a hot steaming plate of oysters.
People who interested in a real CR, know the real price (and material). If someone think to buy a real CR Sebanza for $20-80 - he must be crazy. I think 98% know, that the aliexpress CR are fakes, 1% ist stupid and think it could be real and 1% buy it, because they like the design and have never heard about Chris Reeve.
If you have a low interest in knives you would’n know CR or Rick Hinderer.
Another brand which is often faked is Extrema Ratio (a famous high-price italian manufacturer). A real ER costs about 100€-300€, on Aliexpress you can buy cheap fakes for $7.
If someone buy such a knife for himself it would be ok for me. If he wants to sell such a knife on ebay or somewhere else for a high price (wanted to fake people, sell such a CR clone for example $200 and make profit with the brand, name and reliability of CR), it is criminal and must be stopped.
But I think it would be impossible to stop the selling on aliexpress. You can find a solution if it enters a country, which fight against fakes, but in China it would be impossible.
i think it is a much higher percentage than 1% of people that may be stupid, as you say, or more likely just want to believe they are being told the truth, or are getting a great deal.
If you're going to rip somebody off, at least do it to someone who deserves it - like that thief/liar/scumbag Mick Strider...
Buw,
I had not heard of ER knives, looked at the ER home site, really impressive tactical knives w/ price to match. So,again AliX sellers list LOTS of ’em, all faux-knives…
I heard back from them and they are currently trying to get them removed from Aliexpress and they thanked you guys for finding it. :)
there are lots of strider fakes on aliexpress as well. there are even rick carillo fakes! it is interesting since i own most of the brands that are being ripped off except strider but that is another story.
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ps got a small sebbie for sale if anyone is interested. just back from a tune up at cr, nice folks