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  • The (sc52) tint is great. I think it must be a 3B or 3C (~5300K to ~4700K) tint, since it’s significantly warmer than the 2B (~5900K) on another one of my lights. My ZL H51w is way way too yellow though; it’s probably a 5B or 5C (~4000K). So, as far as I can tell, Zebralight’s “cool white” lights are actually neutral white, their “neutral white” lights are downright yellow, and I don’t even want to know what their “warm” lights look like.

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As for the SC52w, I have no interest. A tint that warm looks sickeningly yellow to me. I’ve been really tempted to get a cool white H51 because my H51w is way too warm.

I held off and waited for this SC52w in NW and was going to pre-order one today, but after reading statements like these I wonder if I should just go with the CW version?

I have a xeno E03 XM-L NW, and a DQG tiny18650 NW, (tint is about equal on them) not sure I’d want a tint much warmer than those.

Anyone have a SC52 and other NW lights to compare? Does anyone else agree that the sc52 CW is “actually neutral white” as ToyKeeper reports?

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beam0 wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:

  • The (sc52) tint is great. I think it must be a 3B or 3C (~5300K to ~4700K) tint, since it’s significantly warmer than the 2B (~5900K) on another one of my lights. My ZL H51w is way way too yellow though; it’s probably a 5B or 5C (~4000K). So, as far as I can tell, Zebralight’s “cool white” lights are actually neutral white, their “neutral white” lights are downright yellow, and I don’t even want to know what their “warm” lights look like.

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As for the SC52w, I have no interest. A tint that warm looks sickeningly yellow to me. I’ve been really tempted to get a cool white H51 because my H51w is way too warm.

I held off and waited for this SC52w in NW and was going to pre-order one today, but after reading statements like these I wonder if I should just go with the CW version?

I have a xeno E03 XM-L NW, and a DQG tiny18650 NW, (tint is about equal on them) not sure I’d want a tint much warmer than those.

Anyone have a SC52 and other NW lights to compare? Does anyone else agree that the sc52 CW is “actually neutral white” as ToyKeeper reports?

The CW of my SC52 isn’t as cool as my CW SRK if that helps any

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beam0 wrote:
I held off and waited for this SC52w in NW and was going to pre-order one today, but after reading statements like these I wonder if I should just go with the CW version?

Anyone have a SC52 and other NW lights to compare? Does anyone else agree that the sc52 CW is “actually neutral white” as ToyKeeper reports?

I’m not sure my color perception is worth listening to… I have weird eyes. Traditional 2700K incandescent lights make my eyes hurt, but computer screens and cool white fluorescent lights are comfortable for me. I’m biased toward relatively cool tints.

However, that said, the best light I’ve seen so far was a L3 L10-219 with Nichia 219 4500K 92CRI emitter. To me, it looks just about right. Compared to the 219, the SC52 looks pale and green and the H51w looks rather uncomfortably yellow. The second-best beam I’ve seen is the JETBeam RRT01, which is lower-CRI and a bit cooler, but otherwise very nice. The L3 L10-219 and RRT01 have become my most often-used lights, with the SC52 now mostly just sitting on my nightstand for use as a night light or mood light.

In any case, what I’ve found is that warmer tints can be okay but only if they’re very high CRI. I don’t mind low-CRI cool tints as much as I mind low-CRI warm tints. I hope Zebralight starts making more high-CRI lights; I’d love a H51d if it existed (85+ CRI, 5000K tint), or H51n (with the same Nichia emitter I mentioned above). Or, at least, Zebralight should start using the tint bin the RRT01 uses, instead of the greenish LEDs they seem to use now.

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lionheart_2281 wrote:

The CW of my SC52 isn’t as cool as my CW SRK if that helps any

I have three CW SRKs and they’re all different.
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Or, at least, Zebralight should start using the tint bin the RRT01 uses, instead of the greenish LEDs they seem to use now.

My SC52 does look greenish to me, unlike my SC51.
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beam0 wrote:
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* The (sc52) tint is great. I think it must be a 3B or 3C (~5300K to ~4700K) tint, since it's significantly warmer than the 2B (~5900K) on another one of my lights. My ZL H51w is way way too yellow though; it's probably a 5B or 5C (~4000K). So, as far as I can tell, Zebralight's "cool white" lights are actually neutral white, their "neutral white" lights are downright yellow, and I don't even want to know what their "warm" lights look like.
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As for the SC52w, I have no interest. A tint that warm looks sickeningly yellow to me. I've been really tempted to get a cool white H51 because my H51w is way too warm.
I held off and waited for this SC52w in NW and was going to pre-order one today, but after reading statements like these I wonder if I should just go with the CW version? I have a xeno E03 XM-L NW, and a DQG tiny18650 NW, (tint is about equal on them) not sure I'd want a tint much warmer than those. Anyone have a SC52 and other NW lights to compare? Does anyone else agree that the sc52 CW is "actually neutral white" as ToyKeeper reports?

i dont think that the discussion of cool light, neutral light, warm light, Kelvin temperatures and tint bins is very helpful. i think we should use RGB codes, black is 255,255,255 for example :bigsmile: . seriously here are some facts:

- every sc52 has a consistent hue across the entire beam profile. there are no tint variations (e.g. white, yellow, green, purplish from hotspot to spill end as known from many other lights, e.g. TM11, TM15, EA4, EA8, and basically all other Nitecore XM-L U2 lights!). this is good. i hate beam profiles with green-yellow corona and purplish spill.

- the degree of it, how deeply and long the LED fell into the bucket of tinting so to speak, varies between each ****ing copy, but basically it has the same hue kind as other samples. so all sc52's are consistently from the same tinting bucket, meaning, if your copy has a light pink beam, then others have the same pink beam, with little variations between the copies (1 is light pink, 1 is deeper pink, 1 is dark pink, 1 is very light pink ... but they all look basically the same: same kind of pink).

- on the lower modes, the hue becomes very apparent (and annoying). at this point nobody will ever say words such as "cool white", "neutral white", or "3B" or "3C" or kelvin temperatures because it doesnt apply anymore. against a white wall you see a color. so wtf don't you name it by its color.

- the hue is lime/green. every sc52 has it. dealers and users will still claim that they dont see it. well what can i say then? it's not a matter of claims and perception. hue is a fact. you can measure it online, you can capture it, you can film it, photograph it and then measure it, etc. hue is a fact. and every sc52 has a lime/green hue, and it's more pronounced on this model than on other xm-l lights (say pd32ue, or eagletac xm-l t6), same way as every olight s10 cw (titanium and aluminum models) is green. s10 and sc52 have a totally different hue. but every s10 has the typical s10-green hue, and every sc52 has the typical sc52-green hue. that's what i mean with "all sc52's are consistenly from the same tinting bucket". fine, if you don't see it on Hi1-mode, then be it as you claim: your eyes dont see it. but as said, hue is a fact. it is there, and you can measure it, and you can see it, if you compare the sc52 beam against ANY ****ING OTHER light source, e.g. a reference nice XP-G or XP-G2 light. if you are perceptive to tints and dont like green, then stay away from s10 and also from sc52. personally i do love the green tint. green is the color of nature and hope. the sc52 is a source of hope to me.

For white wall beam comparison shots which capture the sc52 tint very realistically, see for example:

http://www.forolinternas.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6475

( in the spain discussion, all people complain about is the green sc52 tint. other than the tint, they love their light. )

- i have no idea what the tint of sc52w will be. i have d25lc2 nw .. and it's known to forum readers that eagletac's nw is warm (orange-ish), see also my penlight review for beamshot.

wallbuys gave me a very good price volume discount so i have ordered a whole bunch of sc52's and when i got them all, i'll reconfirm this post and also post some helpful beamshots.

probably the sc52w tint sucks (yellow-ish).

but the sc52 tint sucks too (hope, nature).

 

how is the xm-l2 cw tint???

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Just wanted to say, I like the anodizing color Zebralight uses. All black lights are boring.

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I prefer the CW of the SC52 over that of the NW on my EA4W (the only NW light I have – i like the NW on it when it’s on Turbo mode, but at the lower modes it looks too yellow to me).

I wasn’t sure if I’d like the anodizing color of the SC52, but I think it’s grown on me over time. It is a bit refreshing to see something other than black. I think it’s also kind of a gimmick for ZL as well to differentiate themselves from the sea of other flashlights out there. It’s pretty easy to spot a ZL even without the odd color – they’ve got a very specific profile for their lights.

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Thanks for all the replies, a lot of helpful info so far, please keep them coming, especially if anyone has an SC52 and other similar NW lights to compare between.

I agree too bad more of these manufactures don’t offer a wider selection of different cool light, neutral light, warm light, Kelvin temperatures / CRI / tint bins, and Nichia 219 option in the same light.

I’ve been trying to not let color hue of tint bother me lately, I think when I find the perfect combination of tint/UI/size/switch type/clip I will find my perfect EDC. (and then something new will come out!)

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i recieved my sc52 CW package ( came with a zebra 14500) for $59 a while back and overall im very impressed with the light Smile cannot think of much more to add to the above really. its in my out of work EDC rotation with a rrt-01/v11r/ eagtac d25c 2013 Ti ( i work in construction, balls to taking it to work to trash it… trust me i would) i highly recommend an sc52 Smile

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