Fenix no more at Fasttech

This just goes to show how these flashlight companies are ripping us off with their actual prices. Just think what FastTech was getting the Crelant lights for if they were selling them for the prices they listed. Crelant thinks they hit FastTech where it hurts, but actually it was Crelant that hit theirself where it hurts instead. FastTech sent all their Crelant lights back to them for what they paid. FastTech will just pick up some other brand. And Crelant has lost a lot of customers here on these forums I would bet money on it by pulling this MAP crap. Screw Crelant! Same goes for Fenix.

MAP is legal. Fasttech entered into the agreements with manufacturers like Nitecore, Fenix and others. Fasttech entered into the agreements knowing fully that they would go ahead and break them. So why shouldn't they be punished for it. They lied, they cheated. They are guilty of breaking the agreement. Even the Supreme Court says MAP is legal, so look at it from both sides....

just sayin...

FastTech tells me and others here they were not told about MAP when they purchased the lights from Crelant and Fenix. So I will just say now that FastTech has yet to lie to me.

It may be legal, but it is an effort to raise prices for consumers by manufacturers.

the impression I get is that they specifically asked about map and the answer was cloudy, legal or not it stinks and I’m happy to vote with my wallet, I’ll pay for quality of service, I wont pay someone to artificially keep prices high though, how many would have bought an ea4 at the map price rather than the bargain prices they actually paid I wonder? or any of the other brand name lights that many are suddenly buying? I’ll wager there are few brand name lights in anyone’s collection they paid full retail price for.

You’re doing it wrong, Dale!

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hmm reading stuff up,

“Q4. What if a manufacturer asks me to agree not to resell its products below a minimum price, and I choose not to agree to the request. What are the consequences?

A. The manufacturer may decide to sell to you anyway and you are free to resell the products at any price you wish. Alternatively, the manufacturer could decide to terminate your distributor agreement (if there is one) and cease selling to you.”

link: https://www.naw.org/govrelations/advisory.php?articleid=532

Looking at it from both sides MAP isn’t really about forcing people to pay more, they probably don’t have much variance in what they charge distributers/retailers. It’s more about controlling retail presence and thus volume of product they can put out by having more stores buy stock. Having just a few retailers who specialize in selling your product at the lowest price in volume would probably make it hard convince other retailers to be a new customer and bother paying for and managing inventory for margins that they don’t have the volume to support if they want to compete. If they charge more even the customers who come for other items, and might otherwise have thrown in their product along with their purchases might well skip it in order to get the better price. If they charge the same/less they’d probably have a hard time profiting, at least until if or when they can get enough volume sold. Probably a little discouraging either way.

Encouraging a wide retailer base both helps to build the brand name and supports higher volume of product on the market. Being a layman in this area I can’t say this is the situation for certain, but I’d reason this is the major impetus for MAP.

Did you read recent posts from FT where Jasmine explained some things to us? If you did, you would know that they didn’t lied or cheated. Please, inform more next time…

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furthermore, they did ask about MAP prior than listing the product and were told they can form the price as they wish…

lololololololol fahqer!!!

Very well said gords1001.

Some of these flashlight companies think they are just like the Dukes on Trading Places.

Thanks Sirius9 for clearing up the facts.

Again, we the majority here that make up these forums are not flashlight dealers. We are flashlight buyers or collectors. So those dealers that think MAP is for you your very much in the minority here. We do understand you don’t like being under sold. But think of it how we take it. It’s not our fault you are a dealer. We are here to save some moola.

Its a shame, but seeing as I’ve already bought a couple nice Fenix lights, its no big deal to not buy from them anymore. only downside is batteries, as those fenix branded 2600mah 18650’s are high quality. still not worth $19.99 apiece, but at least they’re really 2600mah and protected, unlike *fire cells and a few others.
Still not a problem, as Panasonic makes great 18650’s that are true in their capacity also, so I wont be buying any more Fenix batteries either.

Olight and Crelant now… Gonna have to find some of those lights on Amazon sometime…. just not buying them from anywhere that helps the manufacturer thats for sure. Same goes for Nitecore. Might have to use Ebay, but I prefer amazon whenever possible due to less scams and hassles.

FastTech are not the only seller selling premium brands below MAP, but they’re arguably the highest profile. I don’t think it’s fair to single them out, but it seems like they have been, perhaps by disgruntled distributors unhappy with their competitive pricing (at least one seller has complained they cannot compete).

Jasmine from FastTech said this about Crelant and I feel it’s relevant here.

Now I am also wondering if some of these brands share the same distributor channels.

chloe, it wouldn’t suprise me if it turned out they all share the same manufacturing complex tbh.

Cheers brad, I just say what I see though.

This MAP (Manufacturer Arranged Price) thing is crazy!

+1 LOL

awesome, I’ll take the red pill please

The prophecy was a lie.