Foursevens Quark Turbo XML-2 Burst VS Classic Foursevens XML Quick Impression

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Foursevens Quark Turbo XML-2 Burst VS Classic Foursevens XML Quick Impression

 

Foursevens just launched few several new light with burst mode.These flashlights are now capable of producing incredibly high lumens without affecting their run times! When switched to Max setting, flashlights with this feature will give you a massive increase in brightness for the first 60 seconds and then will ramp down over 30 seconds to 50% of that output. For somebody who already has Quark Turbo XML and wondering how this new Quark Turbo perform vs the classic one, scroll down for more information.

 

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Foursevens just launched few several new light with burst mode.These flashlights are now capable of producing incredibly high lumens without affecting their run times! When switched to Max setting, flashlights with this feature will give you a massive increase in brightness for the first 60 seconds and then will ramp down over 30 seconds to 50% of that output. For somebody who already has Quark Turbo XML and wondering how this new Quark Turbo XML-2 burstperform vs the classic one, scroll down for more information. 

There is also Quark Turbo XML-2 without burst mode, to avoid confusion I'm just gonna call the new Quark Turbo XML-2 Burst with new QB2L-X burst and the classic Quark Turbo XML with classic QB2L-X.

MSRP: $89

available at foursevens

Quark Turbo XML-2 with burst is provided by Foursevens

 

 

Packaging And Content

Comes in clear blister pack, packaging look's clean and simple i really like the new foursevens packaging design compared with classic one. I really like the included battery, in case you are not flashaholic your light is always good to go out of package !! Also they included rubber hand grip which they don't included on classic QB2L-X. Inside the packaging you got:

  • 1 x Quark Turbo XML2 Burst
  • 1 x Lanyard
  • 1 x Holster
  • 1 x Manual
  • 1 x Rubber Hand Grip
  • 2 x Primary CR123
  • 2x Spare O-Ring 



Design and Build Quality

Nothing much changed on new QB2L-X burst, only aesthetic design changed ( you can see the details below ). I also found the clip is more stiff on the newQB2L-X burst, i found little bit difficult to clip it on my pocket. Knurling i would say medium traction, traction is about the same with the classic model. Pocket clip is removable.

New QB2L-X burst has 3 piece body design from head - battery tube - tail cap. The is a hole on tail cap to attached lanyard if you need to. Head and tail cap is reverse-able, you can switch it to get more carry option bezel up or bezel down.

The thread is squared cut for smooth twist and more wear resistance compared with non squared cut thread 

Size is compact enough it's fit my palm very well. Also you still can do pocket carry fairly comfortable with it's size.



Comparison with Classic Model

Overall design is quite similar between new QB2L-X burst with burst and classic QB2L-X. The difference is on new QB2L-X burst the don't have Foursevens brand on battery tube.

The other difference which i think important, on new QB2L-X burst the tail switch is not anodized while they put anodized on classic QB2L-X. So you can't lock out your flashlight to prevent accidentally turned on. I don't know why Foursevens does not put anodized on the new QB2L-X burst tail cap. 

You can see also the anodizing is more matte in new 
QB2L-X burst compared with classic QB2L-X which more glossy. I like it this way. Maybe in the future if Foursevens could do matte black anodize finish like Armytek Predator anodized, it would be awesome !!!

 

User Interface, Output and Beam Shot

Switch is Forward Switch which is you can do half press to do momentary and full press to get constant on.

New 
QB2L-X burst basically has 2 mode, with head fully tightened is mode 1 and head loosened mode 2. 

To reprogram the each mode ( let's say with head fully tightened), you need to loosen-tighten the head 4 times quickly ( you can also do loosen-tighten more than 4 times it does have to 4 times). After 3 secs, the light will flash 3 times, and you can now choose through all the possible modes by soft-pressing or clicking off-on at the tail switch. To select the mode you want memorized, wait 10 secs with the light on in that mode. The light will flash rapidly to give you indication that the current mode has been memorized. It won't change unless you go through the programming mode again.

At the max mode, burst is only for 1 min, during 1 min output is gradually dropped without noticeable difference. But in case you need the burst mode again, you can turn off the flashlight then turn on again to get burst mode.

Equipped with the latest Cree XML-2 and on my sample emitter is perfectly centered. New QB2L-X burst is using smooth reflector.

As you can see at max mode the New QB2L-X burst is noticeably much more brighter than classic Quark QB2L-X. On 175 meter distance it still light up the object very well, it's incredible for such a compact light Cool

I don't do moonlight mode distance shot because it's just about the same as control shot and the light is way too dim. As you can see, there is not much different in every mode except at max mode. The output is fairly compare-able in every mode.

On Max mode, New QB2L-X Burst is driven harder than classic QB2L-X. 

On Primary CR123 after burst mode New 
QB2L-X burst output is gradually stepping down without noticeable drop, stabilized around 500-ish lumens while on classic QB2L-X output is stabilized 270 - 350-ish lumens. 

On RCR123 after burst mode output on new 
QB2L-X burst is gradually stepping down without noticeable drop, stabilized around 500-ish lumens while on classic QB2L-X output is stabilized 250 - 350-ish lumens. Please note, when you are using RCR 123 the light will suddenly go off when the battery is completely depleted, while on Primary CR123 it's still give you dim light.

Update on 20 August 2013: I just measured tail cap reading using Sanwa DMM ( Digital Multi Meter). 

  • Using fresh AW RCR123: On new QB2L-X burst reading @ 1st second is 1700 mAh and gradually stepping down ( did not continue measure ) while on classic QB2L-X reading @ 1st second is 750 mAh ( continued measure for ~10 secs, it's stabilize between 745-750 mAh ).
  • Using fresh Primary Surefire123: On new QB2L-X burst @ 1st second is 2810 mAh and greadually stepping down ( did not continue measure ) while on classic QB2L-X reading @ 1st second is 1,120 Amp ( continued measure for ~10 secs, it's stabilize between 1,120 - 1,110 mAh ).


At max mode on New QB2L-X burst both on RCR123 and CR123 current is quite high and it's not safe for the battery if it driven continously but for 1 min i think it still safe. Foursevens did a good job on driver design by stepping down the current gradually.

On 
QB2L-X burst because it's driven harder at max mode you will get less run time than the classic QB2L-X. Output on New QB2L-X burst is more flat than ClassicQB2L-X.

 

Summary

These two quark turbo shared identical design and feel while you hold on your hand. It's good that Fourseven included the rubber grip on New QB2L-X burst, in case you need yo don't have to buy it separately the new QB2L-X burst does not comes with anodized tail cap so you can't lock-out the light also the clip is much more stiff than classic QB2L-X, i feel little bit difficult to clip it on my pocket.

The is not much different in every mode except at max mode. At max mode, the new QB2L-X burst is driven harder than classic QB2L-X which always been trade off with more lumens you will get less output. The output on new QB2L-X burst is more flat than output on classic QB2L-X.

Suggestion for Foursevens: Please make the tail cap anodized and improve the anodize like ArmyTek did on their Armytek Predator light 



Hope you guys enjoyed my review!

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Edited by: Njet212 on 08/23/2013 - 07:35
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Thanks for reviewing it.
I think that tail cap should be anodized by default.

cool i'll see you when you get there

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I'm agree with that, it's important to prevent standby current ( if any ) and prevent accidentally turned on.

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I’m pretty surprised the tail cap threads arnt anodized (on the inside of the tailcap, of course the tail end of the body has to be bare since you can flip the head and tail around). I have a few quarks including a new burst mode QP2L-X and while the reverse clickys have always been non-anodized both my quark tac (forward clicky) and the replacement I had to have sent for it are both anodized so I would have expected the turbo’s forward click to be as well to allow lockout, there is no standby current as its a true mechanical switch but the protruding button is easy to activate. I also wish they would offer the standard (pro) interface in the turbo line, or atlease 2 modes with the head loose.

Do you happen to have a single AA body you could use to see if the head can run at full output from a 14500, I have a thread about that in the 1xAA forum.

On an unreleaed side note Ive been using my QT2L-X as a weapon light mounted on my carbine (M4, registered SBR). I machined a .89” holder to moddify my VLTOR scout mount (so as to not need a spacer since its a 1” light mount) and I really like the setup, however I don’t use pressure switches except on pump scatterguns so I don’t miss not having the option.

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Thanks for the review. I used to own an older Turbo X and also recently bought the new Burst model. Both are great lights but this new one is really awesome.

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Great review. Thanks.

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@TrueRMS:

I read from some reply at my review @CPF, a guy mentioned it's because some legal issues and Foursevens got pressured from an aggressive company. That is the reason they removed the anodized. As for AA body, i'm sorry i don't have any of Foursevens AA body.

But if it even work it would not be a practical light since you will runs on 14500 and it has less than 750 mAh, it's just will become WOW light to impress everyone in this case Smile

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ambil beamshoot dimana tuh gan >)

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Thanks for the beamshots on top of that review.

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Post edited and updated. Also added tail cap current reading using DMM both for primary CR123 and rechargeable RCR123.

@flashaholic arround my area gan Laughing

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Just bought this for $35. Man, this is bright. I think all I need to do is set it at Low and Mid and it will cover almost everything I do. If it truly runs 13 hours on Med and 5 days on low, All I need is just 1 set of CR123 for most of my camping and fishing trips.

Wonder if would I get that kind of runtimes on an 18650 2500mah.. (I have a Quark 18650 body). Anyone know?