8steve88m thanks for your informative post. I hadnt checked Heinnie Haynes. Upon opening, I did notice an advert for a “UK friendly custom folder”… where I found the terminology to be most offensive for its insinuation, and the reasons why it was worded as such. Its just another reminder of an irresponsible gov gone wrong. As a sportsman, I find that many of firearms make for a decent legal EDC when the situation calls for it. When a government becomes so over bloated that officials have to find ways of justifying their jobs by driving so many frivolous laws, you’d think there’d be a process to remove them from office, imprison them for several decades and kill the laws they imposed. The system is so heavily flawed, and in so many ways. I have relatives in the UK. When I visit, Im often unaware of the myriad of over control the government places on its peoples. When they visit the US, they are always dumbfounded by the freedoms we enjoy here, and then the conversations and comparisons begin. Its almost mind numbing when I consider how the Brits havent retaliated yet. That being said, the US if fast becoming a socialist/liberal state being driven by an irresponsible media feeding a population of ignorant reactionary people incapable of thinking for themselves or making intelligent decisions at the polls. In a recent poll conducted in the LA area, a large percentage of the population didnt know where the equator is, who Saddam Hussein was or where the Gulf War took place. I read recently that in 3 separate polls, greater than 99.5% of black people voted for obama because of his dark complexion, and then voted for him again, despite his proven lousy first term record.
Our government has been trying to disarm its citizens for many years, with the current administration taking the largest strides while enraging millions of Americans. At some point, there will be a very high price to be paid when the government bares arms against its own peoples… something that millions of Americans foresee as an eventuality. Luckily, the majority of those who are willing to lay down their lives to defend the Second Amendment holds the peace…at least for now. Its been said that in the Midwest alone, there are more privately owned firearms held by its citizens than are owned by the entire combined US military. Then there’s the fact that the collective US gov has recently purchased tens of millions of rounds of ammo in an attempt to make it extremely difficult for its citizens to acquire or afford ammo at the stores. Justice to the gross incompetence of a self-serving system whos political leaders are never punished for their heinous deeds.
New studies are beginning to emerge that prove conclusively that gun ownership saves far more lives in the US than they take. It’ll be interesting to watch the resulting media hypocrisy roll over and change its opinions as momentum is gained with new found support.
Knives… buy them, sell them, give them away to anyone responsible who wants one, and assure that they always have a means of acquisition without severe penalty if caught traveling through a totalitarian monitored supply chain.
Given a choice between two weapons for hand to hand combat, mono e mono and only one walks away.
I agree 100%, and Heinnie Haynes just stopped putting U.K. Legal on their knives (that are) and changed it to U.K. Friendly because they might be held responsible if someone was to be prosecuted for carrying a knife bought from them in an “inappropriate situation”.
I have no problem with prosecuting anyone who attacks someone with a knife but if you were to defend yourself then you would be the one being prosecuted, in fact if you are found to be in possession of a legal to carry knife and asked why you are carrying it then if you answer “self defence” you will be prosecuted.
If someone is attacking you you are expected to wait for the police to turn up and take charge.
The United Kingdom is not what it once was by a long way but I’d still take it over many other countries.
I regret not emigrating to Canada, the U.S.A., Australia or New Zealand when I had the chance, I’m a bit to old now.
Clearly, there is something greatly wrong with the system when a person is penalize for being prepared to defend themselves without the use of excessive force. When Im asked why I carry a concealed large caliber high capacity handgun, I tell people its because its my legal right as an American and Ive earned a concealed weapons permit to do so. Its comical in all the different reactions I get. Most native people in my state could care a less and know it to be a normal accessory for the masses, just as sure as wearing a pair of shoes. Liberals always seem to wallow in extreme ignorance, sighting highly emotional misconceptions based on false assumption and gross incompetence… which always gives me a chance to properly educate them.
It might be interesting if you posted a thread to let the rest of us know what it is to be a small knives connoisseur in the UK, and the strategies used to get around EDC and import while remaining legal.
Do you watch Top Gear? I love it when Jeremy sights first and last names of government officials and their ridiculous solutions to problems. All for the whole world to see. Incidentally, Top Gear earned a spot in the top 10 lineup for the most watched internationally syndicated TV shows on the entire planet. And that was years before they created separate programs in different countries. Jeremy for Prime Minister and Stig in charge of traffic efficiency, speed limits and roadway signage. :bigsmile:
I might just do that, it would take a while to organize my thoughts but I’ll have a go.
I do watch Top Gear and would give Jeremy Clarkson and The Stig top spots in government, they would never get elected because they make too much sense to be in parliament.
And you are right the U.K. has got problems and I can’t see it getting any better anytime soon.
I’ve just broken one of the rules, mine, of never mentioning politics or religion on the internet or in a pub, you will get nowhere and not change anybody’s opinion nso it it a waste of good drinking time! :bigsmile:
I am just happy that we are , mostly, aligned with the U.S.A.
Politics… there is discussion, debate and opinion, and then there is the defining of incontrovertible fact. I’ll just leave it at that. :bigsmile:
Guinness, Heineken or Soddingtons? Cheers! I think now we can move onto religion… NOT! I miss all the pubs in the UK, but Ive heard that as many as 40 in London alone, have been closing on a daily basis. How sad that the times are changing.
I think a lot of people will benefit from your UK EDC knife discussion thread. Im looking forward to your post if you decide to have a go at it. With the fight to save the UK during WWII and all the technical innovation that came from your country, Im surprised that every citizen doesnt wear a cutlas and PPK as a decloration of national pride. Hmm… that gives me an idea.
I’m sure that is misleading info published by the UK media. An article I read the other day agreed that many pubs were closing, what the media did not report was that after a refit and rebrand they were re opening after a few weeks. But good news won’t sell newspapers so it doesn’t get reported.
BTW I noticed Mr Clarkson using a blade on his leatherman whilst repairing his truck in topgear last week.
I’m just glad I can carry a knife with a locking blade. It’s a safety issue; if it won’t lock open, I’m much more likely to hurt myself. I managed to cut myself several times with my old Leatherman PST II, even while trying to be careful. But I’ve had no such issues with a frame lock or liner lock blade.
A friend of mine now has an international criminal record because she forgot to remove a tiny can of pepper spray from her key chain before visiting the UK. Apparently it counts as a firearm.
At least flashlights aren’t normally banned. No matter where I go, I can generally blind someone with a torch if I need a few extra seconds to run away. Though, to be fair, things really shouldn’t get to that point unless I have already made several big mistakes.
Well I got them - after about three weeks - Sanrenmu SRM 7010, 7049, and ZB4-T21. A little note from Australian Customs saying they did not confiscate any. Ta.
I like these knives - I’ve been using the 7010 every day for the past month. It is easy to sharpen and solid.
As I couldn’t find much information on these (except the Chinese/HK websites that don’t seem to show too much) I’ve done a few daggy youtube videos to show what they look like.
I wonder if the US brand is really worth that much anymore - it is at least 8 times the price. So obviously the USA will have to stress their quality as the differential - hence the various steels. But I can’t see it working as most of the steel comes from China/Japan.
I have a few ZDP-189 steel knives from the USA that are driving me crazy trying to sharpen them.
The other argument is about theft of design copyright. But historically it doesn’t really have legs - think of the compass, tea, paper and the number system (esp 0 and 1) all copied from the Chinese. I suppose the Chinese could do a swap.
I think the problem is not whether the sharpening stone cuts the steel. I can do that. It seems to be something else. I have a feeling that the steel at the edge is ‘sticky’ on a micro level and will not come away from the blade. I can get a very good looking edge on the blade - but it is not sharp compared to other steels.
So when you do get to sharpen the ZDP a few times - let me know how you go.
Yep I’ve seen all that - wait till you try it. It does not work. Most people are quoting from others who have never done it. It is an interesting aspect of web information. No one knows until they physically actually do it.
Well obviously it can be sharpened, because they come from the factory very sharp.
What do Spyderco use?
My instinct is that they use a belt grinder, followed by a polish on a leather belt (also on a grinder), as that seems to be the most production oriented form of knife sharpening for a small volume manufacturer.
From the sounds of things ZDP doesn’t let go of the burr easily.
Fasttech has my favorite EDC back in stock at a great delivered price. The Enlan/Bee EL-01A Stainless Steel Folding Knife. Click the pull-down window for all the different versions and prices.
Drinking and posting do go well together! 
