Suggestion: A Forum for more expensive lights?

[CheapThrills]

I wouldn´t mind having that kind of section in here. :)

[scheven_architect]

@Chicago X

Perhaps something like "Bigger Budget Lights" or similar. "Everyone's on a budget - some are larger than others," and so forth.

I wouldn't want to stray too far from the 'budget' theme for branding sake.

Hehe sounds awesome like you say, keep the budget theme

[Nautic]

@old4570

I think things are just fine - Folks are free to talk about or review what ever flashlight they want ..

What it comes down too , is folks here are not buying or talking so much about the more expensive lights - or posting reviews on them .

That comes down to personal choice ... and does anyone want segregation ? If they do , CPF caters to that ATM

+1

[Nautic]

@FlashPilot

@Tas62

An 'exclusive' forum could create unnecessary friction with "It is/isn't a non budget light" type arguments.

Well stated Tas. The last thing we need to become is another dictatorial Nazi illumination forum full of zealots that are more interested in how much they can spend rather than what light does the best job for the money. The wars we see at the other place are far more infantile than any other online hobby discussion group I have seen ANYWHERE. No one here will put up with that type of stupidity, especially Mr. admin.

Trooplewis, we arent trying to bash your idea at all so please dont take it that way. Its just that we've witnessed masses of disillusioned newbs drop the hobby before they ever buy their first $30 light, thanks to people that hammer them relentlessly for not wanting to spend ridiculous amounts of money for something with a name brand.

Well spoken

[scubaduderon]

Budget Light Forum. That is what I come here for, information on budget lights. Another forum exists for non-budget lights. I think people here are smart enough to type in another url if they want to converse with those who prefer more expensive lights. Is that too much to ask? I haven't been here long, but I like it.

This is a budget light forum. I want it to stay that way. That is my opinion.

Ron

[VFMaddict]

I agree with the sentiments expressed by, old4570

@old4570

I think things are just fine - Folks are free to talk about or review what ever flashlight they want ..

What it comes down too , is folks here are not buying or talking so much about the more expensive lights - or posting reviews on them .

That comes down to personal choice ... and does anyone want segregation ? If they do , CPF caters to that ATM

....and even more pointedly by, scubaduderon

@scubaduderon

Budget Light Forum. That is what I come here for, information on budget lights. Another forum exists for non-budget lights. I think people here are smart enough to type in another url if they want to hang with those who prefer more expensive lights. That is the differentiation I prefer.

This is a budget light forum. That is my opinion.

Ron

[ainu]

@dobermann100

Totally agree.

I'm sure most of us have, or would want a few not so budget-lights, and would like to ask for opinions and reviews in a friendly atmosphere.

+1

I have 15+ budget flashlight and 3 non-budget, two sides of the same passion.
I'd like to find here, in this friendly forum, all information about LED flashlights (and HID, why not).

[jamesearljonesisasca (jamesearljonesisascab)]

For me im fine the way it is. Its nice to see some not so budget lights go through here every once in a while. Keeps me dreaming and wanting them. I would like that xeno G42 neutral xml

but i cant see myself spending $100 for it. So if anyone here has one and want to add it to E1320's timeshare idea , I would really appreciate it. I envy the guys here who has or get the not so budget lights. I guess we can call it the cpf section

[trooplewis]

My thinking has taken a turn lately, that rather than buying 1 $30 light 3 times a month, maybe I'd enjoy buying just one $100 light once a month. It is still the same budget in terms of my bank account.

On CPF, even $100 lights are frequently considered budget lights, and personally I don't want to hang around there looking for input on lights in that category.

Anyone want to suggest better places to get that information?

[Langcjl]

Everybodys budget is different. One mans budget light is $10 while another mans is$200. The way I see it is that this is a flashlight forum. People here like flashlights, not just flashlights that cost under a certain amount. I dont think flashlights that cost more should be placed in a separate area. I like the reviews and posts on more expensive lights just as much as the cheaper stuff. If you love the cheaper lights it is good to keep up on what the more expensive lights are offering because those are the features that will trickle down to budget lights. Think disk brakes and airbags on cars.

I love budget lights because I can buy more of them and I appreciate a good deal and value. I also love budget lights so that I can afford to buy a more expensive light every now and then. It's not my website so I cant tell you what the mission here is but to me it's a flashlight forum first and foremost, with an emphasis on lower cost offerings. There is plenty of room for all flashlights. Lets not be, as my friend Brother Dorpmuller suggests, flashlight racists.

[dorpmuller]

@scubaduderon

Budget Light Forum. That is what I come here for, information on budget lights. Another forum exists for non-budget lights. I think people here are smart enough to type in another url if they want to converse with those who prefer more expensive lights. Is that too much to ask? I haven't been here long, but I like it.

This is a budget light forum. I want it to stay that way. That is my opinion.

Ron

+many!! Let the rich stay on CPF. The atmosphere here would get ruined fast.

You know... it's not broke, so don't fix.

Rich

[df2dot]

first of all this is an inclusive site filled with good people, if you have a $3000 dollar light i would like to see it and would rather stay on this site frankly- i go to cpf too sometimes if the search takes me there - good people there also , mostly . i just dont like random monkeys playing god with my valuable time. deleting my account , posts loosing info etc, treating ppl like they dont matter. way over the top arrogance vs here . i could go on ...

its called BLF but it could be easily called LF , its doesnt change the fact most people would like to spend less on FL and stretch their hard earned income

i could buy any light i want but limit it to my own practicality ( not so much recently) but you know what i mean. its free to read the site so when you get something you dont get robbed and know what to buy thx to others that are willing to share there review , knowlege , etc

besides i love those expensive lights, if i needed it professionally i would pay for one. i just dont see the need for my self its still cool to be exposed to it. frankly i like the learning and sharing and helping. if somone asked me about these units i have some knowledge

i think if having a section on non budget lights is ok , more practically how does it help the site functionality. sorry i dont see any arguments as to whats non budget. tk41 , very expensive to me , then again so is the DRY triple is it the cheap version of something , maybe that makes it budget ?? i like the categorize by battery suggestion and maybe a revisit of all the categories is a good idea

maybe a "pro " or specialty section, for military , firefighter , police

I dont know what falls into this category but here is my stab at it

$10-$30 to $50 vs $100 on up , its difficult cuz this is always changing like somone said

i like categorized - dropin , host , battery type

i think there is room for a PRO or high end section ? lets not forget what BLF is about respect. and there is no question in my mind should we have expensive lights here . if it saves your life its budget , frugal, worth the money. for most of us its a $30 vs $130 light but really about knowledge and technology if you think about it

[Ifrit]

First of all, I am down for reading reviews of whatever light people want to write up. I am here because i enjoy the atmosphere/general attitude of the people.

Secondly....

@2100

I think the users here can differentiate nicely with the different sub-forums. Eg, the DRY triple XM-L, perhaps it is not suitable for some...but it still drew interest here. The NW/WW costs about $100 shipped, that's more expensive than some Olight/Surefires, but users can see the potential of that light. Or host + parts for $150 shipped gets you 1.6 million CP 9000 lumens and is still quite portable as a 6" light. Not budget, but not too shabby. The thing is, one may say that paying 150 bucks for a piece of plastic s*** is crazy, I'd say paying $500 for a Titanium shelf queen of considerable size is even more wierd. (and usually they get more than 1 piece so they probably paid 10-20X more)

Where can i read about this 9000 lumen beast?! I kinda want to build one :)

[Match]

I'm in agreement with many above that things are fine the way they are. There are some outstanding reviewers here...regardless of the price of the torch being reviewed. I'd rather read about every new light here than somewhere else.

I picked up a zebralight SC600 a few months ago and have been meaning to do a full review for awhile now (busy summer). When I post it, it'll go in the 18650 section where hopefully it will be well received.

This site could be called Lightforums, TotallyTorches, or Sb56637'sSaloon...it wouldn't change the fact that what keeps me here is the way this community interacts with each other with respect and a very high level of maturity.

Classifying lights based on something other than technical specs may create undue tension.

[gcbryan]

@Match

I'm in agreement with many above that things are fine the way they are. There are some outstanding reviewers here...regardless of the price of the torch being reviewed. I'd rather read about every new light here than somewhere else.

I picked up a zebralight SC600 a few months ago and have been meaning to do a full review for awhile now (busy summer). When I post it, it'll go in the 18650 section where hopefully it will be well received.

This site could be called Lightforums, TotallyTorches, or Sb'sSaloon...it wouldn't change the fact that what keeps me here is the way this community interacts with each other with respect and a very high level of maturity.

Classifying lights based on something other than technical specs may create undue tension.

Looking forward to that review!

[SirJohn]

I think the one issue that makes it tough is where you define budget. ALos, people's defintion of budget changes depending on the type of light it is. People tend to have a higer price ceiling for multi 18650 lights for what is budget vs a 1xaa light. There are many reviews here for $50 multi 18650 lights that are considered budget, but I would never consider the $50 Thrunite Neutron I reviewed budget. In my mind the Xeno E03 sort of straddles the border between budget and non budget. Lights that we consider non-budget here are considered budget elsewhere. Fenix is considered budget by the Surefire and up types while they are generally not considered budget here. I think people are interested in good value for a type of product. While most Fenix are more expensive, more often than not they represent a good value for their quality level especially when you can get them on sale and I want to see reviews for these and similar lights. Heck, it'd be nice to start up pass arounds for some of those more expensive lights (like a Fenix TK70).

A sub forum is a good concept but with it being hard to define what is and isn't budget, that alone may create unnecessary friction. However, this forum has grown tremendously over the past few months where there are so many threads and posts, you almost need some more sub forums for organizational purposes. Its not there yet, but at the rate its expanding, it may be necessary in the future.

[darcyh]

I think this is a great idea!

[devman]

I'm happy with things the way they are. We've got categories by battery type, and I haven't seen someone get dumped on for saying

"hey, my budget is $120, can you recommend me a good light?".

The locals just take this in stride and do the best they can for him. There's a lot of refugees who show up and if we just dump them into a non-budget subforum for asking these kinds of questions, they won't get the "if you're on a budget, this might be a better option" posts. Unless they state they're not sure, we often just assume they know what they're talking about, or know what they want.

Take scubaduderon (no offense man, just the first example that springs to mind). When he showed up as lucky #1000, he wanted a "thrower"... Being literal, we assumed that's what he wanted and tried to find him one. Ultimately he did want one, but the assumption was made. I think that if we have a separate forum, those kinds of assumptions probably won't be questioned.

To me, wanting to spend more is like preferring a WW emitter or saying "I'm looking for a zoomie"... So far there's no judgements against such people. Ultimately things might change as the membership grows, but excluding the members of our community to a subforum just because they have a different set of requirements seems unnecessary.

[sb56637]

@SirJohn

I think the one issue that makes it tough is where you define budget. ALos, people's defintion of budget changes depending on the type of light it is. People tend to have a higer price ceiling for multi 18650 lights for what is budget vs a 1xaa light. There are many reviews here for $50 multi 18650 lights that are considered budget, but I would never consider the $50 Thrunite Neutron I reviewed budget. In my mind the Xeno E03 sort of straddles the border between budget and non budget.

Good point.

I own about 35 flashlights, and of them 1 is a Zebralight and the other is a Fenix. Both were gifts. ;-) I love both of them, they are excellent products, and I do plan on reviewing both of them here when I get some time. But most of my other budget flashlights still easily hold their own against these name brands.

[sb56637]

Thanks again to everyone for your insightful comments. Let's try something. Anybody here who owns a light they would consider to be an expensive or recognized brand, please try to write a review. We'll add them in with all the other reviews, and go from there. I suspect that the number of people here who own and prefer mostly expensive brands is rather small. But, if we get a huge influx of reviews about this category, we'll cross that bridge when we reach it.