What will beat the Fenix RC40?

Great idea, B42! Funny how guns and knives are the first things to come to mind here in the U.S. for self-defense. It’s fortunate for both me and the idiot that his dog was not as committed as his owner obviously thought he was to take on my dog.

I had a locking folder in my pocket that could have come out if needed. The idea of spraying mace or pepper spray is much better, especially under those circumstances, since it would repel the dog without permanent injury or death to the innocent animal (look at the owner, instead). It would also avoid giving the idiot hiding in the dark with who-knows-what kind of weaponry as much a reason to escalate the situation.

Anyone have a recommendation on where to buy some?

Exactly. I’m also from the US btw, and though I could carry one even concealed, I don’t tend to carry and would always choose to try to solve the situation with the least possible force. Its a dog, pepper spray and a long stick should be fine, and carrying a knife in the case of a satanspawn dog from hell bent on ripping your arm off and killing you should work if not :slight_smile:

You can get pepperspray all over online too, Amazon, ebay, sportsmansguide, etc. Not sure what the “best” site is. I carry some in my night forest hikes, I even prefer it over a gun then, but I’m not 100% it would help me with a bear…but black bears are generally just as afraid of you as you are of them and with two dogs and a knife, being a big guy I think I still have a pretty good chance. :wink: I’m more afraid of not being able to keep my dogs away from the bear.

that should do it, I never like to ask incase it gets the sender in trouble but hopefully it’ll slide through without issue. It may also be on its way, I have noticed usp tracking stops when it enters the sort facility and does not update till its signed for.

I have a package to pick up tomorrow which could be something local or could be an international package, we’ll see in the morning, the feilong’s have shipped on Saturday (fasttech held the package up waiting for a c8, c8’s still not shipped unfortunately :~ ) so I should have them in the next few weeks along with some molicell 26700’s from Elektrolumens, I don’t think this light’ll be under fed lol

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Thanks, again, B42, for the great advice. My walks had been peaceful and uneventful for so long, probably because I previously took both of my rescued pitbulls with me on walks, but my daughter recently took over walking duties with one of them. (Fortunately she always carries OC spray).

It’s blows my mind to see ignorant, irresponsible people choosing to neither keep their dogs contained nor on leash in 2013, while the general public (with substantial assistance from the media) blame the innocent, neglected, and often abused dogs.

I’ve got some Fox 6% OC spray on the way. Combined with a very sturdy ‘walking/deterrant’ stick and a belt-sheathed fixed-blade (as a last option), I’m now much more prepared for such situations.

I have a Vinh modded TK75, and it's an absolute beast. I don't know if it will beat the RC40 as I don't have one, but I think it would be difficult for it not to win out.

Two reasons... RC40 is using older emitters, and crappier batteries. I also expect the LED's are not driven anywhere near as hard.

Fenix only recently released the xml2 version of the TK75, and it's nearly a match to the RC40 stock in terms of throw. 126000kcd for the RC40 vs 195000 for the TK75.

I know my dedomed TK75 would also spank the RC40 in throw, but so will the K40 and the TN31 as already was mentioned. The dedomed tk75 has a nicer hotspot vs the tn31 and k40 though.

In terms of raw "wow" power, nothing I own beats the FF4. In terms of practical limitations with that light, the only one that really bugs me is that you don't have a true low mode.

You also can't really run it for all that long. You get about half hour of run time start to finish, if you go to high mode as soon as possible. After that you will need to allow the light to also cool down as it gets HOT. So if you're going camping, definitely not a light to take, since you'll need spare batteries.

On 20W "low" mode it would run for a while longer and is definitely in the 2000 lumen range... but that's way too much throwy light for up close stuff. For me, nothing as of yet beats the modded TK75 overall. My only wish would be to have the same performance in a smaller package.

This will :smiley:

And the poor bastard has no hope in readily beating it either :wink:

I wonder what the actual performance numbers on that light are in terms of throw and lumens.

dude that is totally out of this world! so a tank has that light attached to it?

Umm, yeah :slight_smile:

Then that tank is at risk of being carnapped (or tanknapped) - by flashaholics. :stuck_out_tongue:

I am pretty sure the Supbeam X60 will get you there.

whatchall think??

Hi, i think the version of Racer86 Tk75 will beat them all even the tk75vn kt, its running about 6.6Amps each. And if he dedome those 3 xml2 I think it will give more throw.

Yeah it will beat them all to overheat and drop like a stone in output.

It’s not all about the first 10 seconds, if even that.

Yes, and I believe the batteries sag will happen much quicker than the heat sag. We are talking about just a few seconds staying at maximum output lol.

Where did you get your 10seconds idea? kindly read what he wrote on his thread.

Stock TK75 is a great powerful allrounder, now, this light is in a different league. Im not kidding when I say that my BTU, SP03, Lustefire 3xU2, all modified “hot-rods” are now pretty much obsolete. As in, this TK75 outperforms them in pretty much every possible way. This will probably make some of my incoming Supbeams X40 and K40M obsolete as well (hopefully Ill like the thinner carrier enough to keep them). This might make some other lights that I have been planning mod obsolete as well. This will also out throw X60. Naturally, It wont run as cool as a much larger light. But it will fit in my jacket pocket, and that makes it into a light that I will use much more compared to something that is larger.

Used in a mild/cold winter environment with some wind or maybe rain. It might be able to run at 6,6A without step down from full to low batteries. Now, late summer/early autumn with some wind I can use it for around 6-8 minutes before it steps down. Wait until it cools 5 degree (which is fairly quick) and I can crank it up again for a little while if needed. I can disable the feature, but I prefer to have it there for safety.

If you think 6,6A is over the top, or generates too much heat. Then its easy to adjust it down to 6A, or 5,6A or… 5A …. Well, easy once you are confident in how to operate the driver and how the menu system works.

I hope he has found something after a year of searching! :stuck_out_tongue:

Fern, heat sag is not an issue outdoors. When it is, the light steps down. And as already quoted that will take some time...

My numbers are "ansi numbers" indoors. No startup up bragging numbers typical for unregulated hot-rods with fresh cells.

The light is specifically built for real life continuous outdoor use with high capacity cells and does so very well. With all the modes (and different UI`s), user adjusted temperature, user adjusted peak output, its easy to tailor the light for any type of use and environment.

bibihang, battery sag is not an issue since its pretty much properly regulated. It will push out around/close to 5000 lumen even when cells are fairly low (some cells will be almost fully drained at that point). When it finally does go a bit down on output, it will still be RC40 level. This is one of the many reasons why I think the light is so much better compared to most unregulated hot-rods that are only super bright with the right freshly charged cells.

Most of your worries have been talked about in my thread on the light.

I have been thinking of making an RC40 R86 edition. But never had the light in my hands or seen a teardown, so I cant say for sure how my plans would go if I decided on it. Its very tempting though. It would basically be a lot like the TK75 R86 edition but with some necessary tweaks. Based on the same taskled driver, but bigger, brighter and badder. :D The more I have been thinking about it, the more im tempted to pull the trigger on one..

Cheers, you came to the rescue! you explain it very well about your mod Tk75 R86, saving some money now! I like the overall performance of that said taskled driver.thanks :party:

I used to really lust after the RC40, but I’m glad I got the X60 instead.

More thought had gone into the RC40 design (imho). While it's true the magnetic ring is more convenient, the light is very awkward to use one handed. The tube on the X60 is also very slippery. I used both lights this weekend, and while both worked well, I found myself both using, and giving the RC40 to others to use a lot more.

Also having preset power levels on a light insures that you can manage your battery time far more efficiently. That is very difficult to do with an "infinitely" variable control ring.

The power pack also means not having to juggle six batteries. That Fenix choose to release the light with the now very dated xmlu2's and crappy batteries in the pack is in large part the reason I suspect it hasn't done all that well in sales. I definitely would not have purchased one if it hadn't been modded.