very detailed technical informative review, excellent work there!!
Really good breakdown of the TM16. This gives a very good insight into the working of the torch. Thanks for working through the task and posting the details.
Nice review, i like to See all the innards.
How did you find out that it is no dtp? Did you desolder one of the leds or could you measure the centerpad on the solderblob?
there have been 2 blobs and i also scratched the mask beside a LED with a skalpel….no cuntinuity
Plastic reflectors are a bit disappointing for such a nice light, even if it’s 5% that’s 200 lumens lost!
I’ve looking to mod a monster light like this or the TK75, which also has a plastic reflector.
Thanks M4D M4X -for such a comprehensive review. I found the reflector issue and the output difference[cell draw and current] while using a different cells very interesting. The tear down shots are appreciated as provides and insight for anyone considering modding or upgrading, great pics great review.
Hey M4D M4X! …or anyone, really.
What’s your opinion on the TM16 for a XHP50 swap?
Since the XM-L2s are all in series, you could parallel 4x 12V XHP50s. Even driven mildly, at 2A that’s 6800 lumens, 2.5A gives 8K lumens. The heat means you couldn’t run it for super long, but for a 30 second burst or so it should work, no?
I was asking so if I got one and later got bored with it, I’m thinking a 12v emitter swap shouldn’t be impossible and I could keep the stock driver.
Great indepth review! That has been a lot of work, and you tested it all!
thanks!
that did really take more time than my family liked…
@keithd:
i am already looking for good xhp50 to swap 
banggood tries to find out which bin they have on stock.
So you think it will work, cool! I was debating this light, a cheaper 3x XM-L to mod later, or some 2x26650-style MT-G2 light.
The MT-G2s were all seriously under-driven (like 1400-1700 lumens) and didn’t have enough head mass to push much. The cheaper XM-Ls are okay, but if I know I will mod it immediately, I can wait until I get back. The TM16 seems like it’s good enough to use right now, and if you couple it with 25R/HE2/high drain cells, it can do 4500-ish from what I saw.
Also, yeah, thanks much for the review. One of the best tear-downs I’ve seen.
BTW - would painting the backside of the reflector help?
i don’t think that painting the reflector hasan effect…
i hope the price i sent you helps you with your decision
Wow, that was a very thorough review and teardown. Thanks!
I’m surprised they couldn’t get the MCPCB to sit flush against the plastic reflector to prevent some of that light leak. Or they could have sealed it with something so that less light escapes?
Thanks!
the reflector sits tight…
the light is actually shining through the plastic…
but in my set up 100% light is reflected since i did not use a black carpet or so.
i think its less loss when the light does leave the lens ;g
fixed the broken beamprofile video in part 1
Will this machine work with 4xhp35s in parallel?
Edit: 1k posts, yeah!
Congrats to you 1k Posts -> you know what that means
yes - 4 x XHP35 will work
but they willl be very dim!
i use mine as a host for a 1x XHP35 + lens project
I imagine the LEDs require more volt, right?
Can this fixed by replacing components in the driver?
The latest Zebralight SC600 mk3 utilises XHP35 emitter, but their buck-boost drivers are most probably not budget-friendly
the stock driver can handle the voltage, but not the Amps
6 amps for 4 xhps in parallel would be enough. I see your measurements and I believe the power is enough.
Edit: it is 2.5amps, not 6.
Adding some sense resistors will help?